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Why Are Studios so resistant to Fan Service/Fan Pandering?
Posted on 1/28/21 at 7:00 am
Posted on 1/28/21 at 7:00 am
Fan Service has some different definitions from what I've seen but I'm speaking of the pandering type where movies and TV shows actually give the fans what they want such as the return of Luke Skywalker in the Mandalorian.
I almost feel like studios hate the notion of giving fans what they want.
New experimental films and TV shows are one thing, but long established franchises are still around for a reason.
I almost feel like studios hate the notion of giving fans what they want.
New experimental films and TV shows are one thing, but long established franchises are still around for a reason.
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 7:01 am
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 7:09 am to CU_Tigers4life
Depends on the franchise.
Cobra Kai has done an amazing job of fan service while also introducing new characters that I am at least interested in.
Star Wars has been overtaken by a societal agenda, instead of being used to make money and tell Star Wars stories that actually feel like Star Wars...at least regarding the movies and books.
Cobra Kai has done an amazing job of fan service while also introducing new characters that I am at least interested in.
Star Wars has been overtaken by a societal agenda, instead of being used to make money and tell Star Wars stories that actually feel like Star Wars...at least regarding the movies and books.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 7:10 am to CU_Tigers4life
Fan service can be difficult to pull off. Too little and old fans aren’t happy and too much and new fans aren’t happy.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 7:20 am to UMRealist
I don’t see how it’s a problem. You set up a story and it’s history and then you stick to it.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 7:40 am to CU_Tigers4life
Well, in Star Wars' case, the first new sequel was almost all fan service, then a new director and writer came in and literally made a movie with the sole intent of pissing off longtime fans of the series in some fricked up attempt at virtue signaling and social justice. Other franchises aren't nearly as bad as SW was.
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 7:41 am
Posted on 1/28/21 at 7:42 am to CU_Tigers4life
Cheap fan service is actually lazy and not good for art and it also leaves the fans empty after awhile.
The key is to give the audience what they want without them necessarily knowing what it is they want or why.
Or you can go the Rian Johnson approach and intentionally spit in the audience's face because you're so cool.
The key is to give the audience what they want without them necessarily knowing what it is they want or why.
Or you can go the Rian Johnson approach and intentionally spit in the audience's face because you're so cool.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 7:53 am to CU_Tigers4life
I want my expectations subverted
Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:06 am to CU_Tigers4life
quote:
Fan Service has some different definitions from what I've seen but I'm speaking of the pandering type where movies and TV shows actually give the fans what they want such as the return of Luke Skywalker in the Mandalorian.
I almost feel like studios hate the notion of giving fans what they want.
New experimental films and TV shows are one thing, but long established franchises are still around for a reason.
I think it helps to be a huge fan and do what you think is cool.
Not doing what you think fans will want.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:14 am to CU_Tigers4life
Fan service can be good in small doses, but there comes a time where too much fan service gets you into eye roll territory. I don't mind franchises going in new and exciting directions, but those directions need to make sense given the history of the characters. Take for instance The Last Jedi. I didn't take issue with 90% of the stuff Rian Johnson did in that film. However, the 10% I did have a problem with involved (mostly) his characterization of Luke Skywalker. That character was the lynchpin of the entire mythos and Rian Johnson completely ruined him. That ruination of Luke Skywalker not only ruined the movie, it also destroyed any enthusiasm a good many fans had for the franchise going forward (myself included).
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:25 am to CU_Tigers4life
because it usually comes out cringeworthy/forced and it takes you out of the natural flow of the movie
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:31 am to CU_Tigers4life
Because all the studios want is your money. They hate you and think you are stupid.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:56 am to CU_Tigers4life
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Why Are Studios so resistant to Fan Service/Fan Pandering?
Stan Lee was famous for not giving the fans exactly what they wanted. A lot of the comics editors and writers of his generation were the same. It was the next generation that came in and made everyone an Avenger or an X-Man.
I don't think Filoni just threw the fans exactly what they asked for. He knew what they wanted and that allowed him to come up with concepts that were sure to entertain them.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:59 am to CU_Tigers4life
Season 8 and 7 were fan service that failed badly.
No major characters killed off anymore, major plot holes, all so they could provide what they thought was fan service, which in turn, the fans justifiably hated.
No major characters killed off anymore, major plot holes, all so they could provide what they thought was fan service, which in turn, the fans justifiably hated.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:06 am to CU_Tigers4life
Because they choose political agenda over money and fan satisfaction.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:07 am to prplhze2000
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Season 8 and 7 were fan service that failed badly.
No major characters killed off anymore, major plot holes, all so they could provide what they thought was fan service, which in turn, the fans justifiably hated.
Obviously talking about GoT. They shortened the seasons and tried to turn to fan service to make up for it.
That whole going beyond the wall episode was major fan service with the “A-Team” of the show’s badasses. The whole reason Bron’s character was still around and had a role at the end was because of fan service.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:11 am to prplhze2000
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Season 8 and 7 were fan service that failed badly.
No major characters killed off anymore, major plot holes, all so they could provide what they thought was fan service, which in turn, the fans justifiably hated.
I think this was actually closer to the opposite of fan service.
They were more concerned with “beating” the fans to an ending that hadn’t been guessed already so they ignored all previous story telling and logic to come to the conclusion that they hoped would shock the most people
Instead it offended those fans
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:07 am to CU_Tigers4life
Other than TLJ, the new Star Wars movies have been nothing but fan service.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:14 am to CU_Tigers4life
Fan service needs to be fairly subtle if you're using a lot of it.
That's why the Mandalorian was so good at it, because a lot of it was small like Boba doing the Jango pistol spin or Ahsoka's owl. Things that only true fans are going to even notice.
Like it was mentioned earlier in the thread, the shite like the all female team up in Endgame completely takes you out of the moment.
That's why the Mandalorian was so good at it, because a lot of it was small like Boba doing the Jango pistol spin or Ahsoka's owl. Things that only true fans are going to even notice.
Like it was mentioned earlier in the thread, the shite like the all female team up in Endgame completely takes you out of the moment.
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 11:15 am
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:22 am to JetsetNuggs
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Fan service needs to be fairly subtle if you're using a lot of it.
That's why the Mandalorian was so good at it, because a lot of it was small
I mean, there was nothing subtle about Luke skywalker showing up in a season finale with R2D2 and the x wing to save the day
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:25 am to wildtigercat93
I wouldn't necessarily call that fan service.
It's one of the most famous characters of all time coming into a show that he would naturally be a part of given the timeline and story of said show.
It only feels like fan service because the character was neglected instead of being continued from his high point.
It's one of the most famous characters of all time coming into a show that he would naturally be a part of given the timeline and story of said show.
It only feels like fan service because the character was neglected instead of being continued from his high point.
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 11:27 am
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