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When it's all said and done, are the Star Wars Prequels > Sequels? (Warning: Long Post)
PSA: I haven’t seen Rise of Skywalker, but judging from the leaks and perception so far, it’s not looking good. There might be spoilers for it in this thread though.

So this might be just because I kind of grew up with the prequels, but now that both trilogies are finished, I think there’s a good case to be made that the prequels are better when you break down the trilogies.

Let’s start with storyline/arc. Although execution was shaky at times, Lucas had a clear vision for the prequels: Anakin's journey to become Darth Vader, and Darth Sidious' rise to power, along with the decline of the Jedi and the rise of the Empire. Now you can argue that this was an easy set-up because he had the OT to base it off of, but Lucas still had his ideas for a clone army, the Clone Wars, the Republic, etc, that weren't in the OT. I realize the new movies don't have anything to build toward like the prequels did, but they also have access to old characters we know and love. There is no excuse to have zero coherent plot planned out from the get-go. Make sure your movies freaking have a good story and can align for a trilogy before you start releasing them. It's not that hard. If you ask someone what the overarching theme of the sequels is, they would probably have no idea. That's because there is none. None of these characters have arcs. Nobody has big struggles to overcome and nobody is working toward a final goal. There is no development, and everyone ends the trilogy the same way they started it. In the prequels and OT people at least changed throughout the story.

Another thing the prequels did better on was characters. (Except for Jar Jar who sucks.) Qui Gon Jinn, Darth Maul, Mace Windu, Grievous, etc. are all better side characters than the likes of Rose, Poe, Hux, Phasma, Snoke, etc. The prequels also did main characters better. Anakin was melodramatic yeah, but Palpatine and Obi Wan were awesome. Padme in Attack of the Clones and Yoda in Revenge of the Sith were also good. Rey on the other hand is boring as hell. She has no interesting backstory and she easily beats everyone she faces. Luke is a whiny bitch who doesn't do shite about the problem he created. Kylo Ren had a ton of potential, but it got squandered because the trilogy wasn't planned and they didn't know where to go with the character. Basically, all the sequels consist of is Rey doing a bunch of everything and everyone else doing a whole lot of nothing. The characters are bland and uninteresting when compared to the over the top but still entertaining portrayals of prequel characters.

Two big things that brought the prequels down was Lucas getting bogged down in special effects and poor dialogue. Obviously the sequels have better effects because they are newer, and I disagree with Lucas using so much cgi. Still though, while Lucas did spend too much time coming up with new characters and planets at least he came up with some unique stuff. The new movies don't really have any unique characters and just rehash Lucas planets, with the desert planet, the water, planet, the forest planet, the city planet, the ice planet, the Death Star, etc. Additionally, lightsaber fights in the prequels are amazing but horrible in the sequels. That is one thing the prequels did better. When it comes to dialogue I will concede that the prequels are terrible. Lucas obviously has no idea how normal people talk. At least people talk normally in the sequels. Although prequel lines have made for some incredible memes, so at least there's that.

Overall, I think both trilogies are bad with one good movie each. Revenge of the Sith was a good movie to bridge the gap and explain how the Empire came to power and it showed the fall of Anakin well. The Force Awakens was a good set-up movie to get the new trilogy going and introduce us to new characters. Unfortunately the rest of the trilogy didn't go that way. Ultimately, neither trilogy is good. But when I watch the prequels, I feel like I'm watching Star Wars. When I watch the sequels, I feel like I'm watching a money grab.

TLDR The prequels are better for a bunch of reasons.
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DisplacedBuckeye
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re: When it's all said and done, are the Star Wars Prequels > Sequels? (Warning: Long Post)
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The prequels are better for a bunch of reasons.


No.

AotC could have killed the OT. It's pure arse from start to finish.


RollTide1987
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re: When it's all said and done, are the Star Wars Prequels > Sequels? (Warning: Long Post)
The prequels felt like Star Wars, even though they were flawed films. The sequels are flawed and feel like fan films more than they do actual Star Wars movies. Rey is a character my sister (no pics) would have conceived of in a FanFiction.net story some 10 years ago.
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re: When it's all said and done, are the Star Wars Prequels > Sequels? (Warning: Long Post)
TL;DR

Prequel is significantly better than Sequel. Also Phantom Menace is underrated with a horrendous child actor spouting poorly written dialogue. Ewan McGregor is better than anything in the Sequel trilogy


partywiththelombardi
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re: When it's all said and done, are the Star Wars Prequels > Sequels? (Warning: Long Post)
Liam Nelson/Samuel Jackson - better than not my Luke
Ewan McGreggor - better than any sequel trilogy Jedi
Natalie Portman - also better than Daisy
Pod Racing - better than Casino planet
Darth Maul - trumps Kylo by a mile
Palpatine actually has an arc vs Snoke
John William's collection of Prequel scores
Revenge of the Sith has some misses but out of the 6 movies is going to end up being the best of them all

yeah it is a pretty lopsided comparison


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re: When it's all said and done, are the Star Wars Prequels > Sequels? (Warning: Long Post)
Short response: Yes, they added to it and enhanced the universe in positive ways despite all of the obvious faults along the way. The DT hasn’t enhance the Universe in any way, while 2 of the non Episodes have been the best thing in the Star Wars since the OT (Rogue One and The Mandalorian).


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blueboy
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re: When it's all said and done, are the Star Wars Prequels > Sequels? (Warning: Long Post)
The prequels, as bad as they are, are still better than the sequels. I don;t think anyone is going to argue against that in time.


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re: When it's all said and done, are the Star Wars Prequels > Sequels? (Warning: Long Post)
I don't think it's fair to compare George's prequel trilogy to Disney's trilogy that was made by hacks and cultural arsonists.


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DisplacedBuckeye
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I don;t think anyone is going to argue against that in time.


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re: When it's all said and done, are the Star Wars Prequels > Sequels? (Warning: Long Post)
Samuel L was cringeworthy


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re: When it's all said and done, are the Star Wars Prequels > Sequels? (Warning: Long Post)
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Star Wars Prequels > Sequels?


Absolutely without question. They're full of stupid shite and nonsense but they took place in the star wars universe.

This sequel trilogy feels like shitty fan fiction written by the chick that wrote Twilight in an alternate dimension.
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re: When it's all said and done, are the Star Wars Prequels > Sequels? (Warning: Long Post)
Damn you ain't lying.


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DrSteveBrule
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re: When it's all said and done, are the Star Wars Prequels > Sequels? (Warning: Long Post)
The prequels were better for one reason and one reason alone, they did not frick the story up. Just ignore the midichlorians and the prequels, while not great movies, at least tell a somewhat interesting plot with the payoff being how it transitions to the original trilogy. With that being the ultimate goal I would say they accomplished that. I would call revenge of the Sith and some parts of episode 1 and 2 as being worthy of being called good.
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re: When it's all said and done, are the Star Wars Prequels > Sequels? (Warning: Long Post)
New trilogy is boring

But the Prequels were bad movies


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re: When it's all said and done, are the Star Wars Prequels > Sequels? (Warning: Long Post)
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The prequels were better for one reason and one reason alone, they did not frick the story up. 



midichlorians



RollTide1987
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re: When it's all said and done, are the Star Wars Prequels > Sequels? (Warning: Long Post)
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midichlorians


Did absolutely nothing to alter the story. They added a scientific explanation to how the Force works and that's all. For some it was stupid, for others (such as myself), it was met with absolute indifference.




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re: When it's all said and done, are the Star Wars Prequels > Sequels? (Warning: Long Post)
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Darth Maul - trumps Kylo by a mile
Darth Maul dies quick as shite. Only manages to kill a super old and slow Jedi before being dick slapped by a padawan

And spider legs Maul is absurd and laughable
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re: When it's all said and done, are the Star Wars Prequels > Sequels? (Warning: Long Post)
OG>PRE>SEQ


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tigahbruh
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re: When it's all said and done, are the Star Wars Prequels > Sequels? (Warning: Long Post)
The prequels are awful and ruin the character of Darth Vader. The sequels are just pure garbage.
But if you want to claim that awful is better than pure garbage, you are correct. Congrats.


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WildManGoose
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re: When it's all said and done, are the Star Wars Prequels > Sequels? (Warning: Long Post)
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AotC could have killed the OT. It's pure arse from start to finish.


I agree 100% with OP on every point. And even though I don't think AotC was that bad, I respect the hell out of your hatred for it. The degree and consistency of disdain is impressive.

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