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What movie is now ruined for you and why?

Posted on 8/19/21 at 5:14 pm
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 5:14 pm
Rudy is ruined for me.

Rudy actually came and spoke to our school decades ago. He was a motivational speaker. He told the story of how he made the movie. Basically, this is what he said: he played in the game, went to work at the plant in town, hated it and quit, did nothing with his life, was dead broke and and no ambition - then someone convinced him to sell his story, he did, and had been living off the movie money and motivational talks ever since.

I don’t know, just hearing that he was a bum his whole life after college just ruined his story for me.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 5:19 pm
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
26878 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 5:16 pm to
I can’t do LotR anymore after watching GoT. It just seems too cartoony.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30321 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 5:46 pm to
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was dead broke and and no ambition
Wish he'd told you he was living in a van, down by the river.
Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 5:47 pm to
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I can’t do LotR anymore after watching GoT. It just seems too cartoony.

The show with the dragons, the three eyed raven, woman with no face, and bringing people back to life is less cartoony than hobbits traveling across the world to destroy a ring to end evil while his friends frick up everything in their path?



LOTR is the goat trilogy.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 5:49 pm
Posted by Cregg
Orange Beach
Member since Jul 2017
1992 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 5:51 pm to
Remember the Titans. Herman Boone was a piece of shite.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35395 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 5:59 pm to
He shopped that script around town for years.

What got me was that they portrayed Dan Devine as some a-hole and he was pissed because he was one of Rudy's biggest supporters and convinced him to go back to the team.

And Rudy didn't have a job at Notre Dame. His tuition was covered by the GI Bill since Rudy served in the Navy before attending Notre Dame.

Rudy also never had an older brother.

Groundskeeper didn't exist.

After Rudy's appearance in "the final game" Notre Dame went on the road and played two more games of which Rudy didn't travel with the team.

The crowd didn't chant for Rudy to get into the game. A few chanted his name after he made the last tackle.

Joe Montana said they did carry Rudy off the field but it was in jest.
Posted by WITNESS23
Member since Feb 2010
13719 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:21 pm to
Into the e Wild.

I thought the movie was good and I was interested so I did some reading on it after the fact.

Read how many people in Alaska hated his story and how he thought he could just rough it. They also didn't like that his story was romanticized.

*Spoilers*
He didn't take a map or compass, thought he was in this remote location but he was actually in a common hunting spot which is why the van was there (used as a cabin of sorts for hunters if I remember correctly.) He killed a moose with no knowledge of how to preserve the meat so the vast majority of it was wasted. Had he had a map, which many people encouraged him to bring, he would have known there was a bridge further up river and could have saved himself.

After reading about it the guy was just an arrogant a-hole.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48664 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

I can’t do LotR anymore after watching GoT. It just seems too cartoony.

GTFOH
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48664 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:34 pm to
Ya know, even though all is that is true, it’s still a good movie.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29430 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:42 pm to
I don’t let anything ruin stuff for me.

You’re being a pussy
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:42 pm to
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I can’t do LotR anymore after watching GoT. It just seems too cartoony.


Ummmm, Lord of the Rings ended awesomely. If anything Game of Thrones’ ending made me appreciate it more. Bronn becoming Master of Coin or Arya sneaking past thousands of wights to kill the Night King is more cartoonish than anything in The Lord of the Rings.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:50 pm to
I hate to say this one, but Star Wars at large. Loved the franchise, was obsessed with it until recently, but it betrayed everything the franchise stood for. I’ve unfortunately come to the conclusion that there are only two great movies in the franchise, 4 ok ones, and the rest are shite (haven’t seen IX or Solo). It is the most overrated franchise and I think by a long shot at that despite how influential it was on cinema. I can still enjoy some of the films, but I no longer get the ecstasy I used to feel for these movies anymore. I still get that from Lord of the Rings though.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 6:51 pm
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35395 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:55 pm to
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the guy was just an arrogant a-hole


I don't think he was an a-hole. He was just young and full of wanderlust after graduating from Emory.

But yeah, Alaskans had no sympathy for him. I think what pissed them off is the movie makes it out that Alaska killed him.

But he was two fricking miles from a Ranger station upstream.

Alaskans take pride in respecting nature...and turn on people who don't...like that idiot Timothy Treadwell.

Now that guy was an a-hole who killed his girlfriend by playing Bear nanny.

SPOILERS:








What I hate about the film Grizzly Man is that Herzog flat out lies. He won't let the audience hear the final recording of when Treadwell and his girlfriend are being attacked and eaten by a bear but he is shown listening to it.

And he says that Treadwell is trying to save his girlfriend and shouting at her to run away.

When in reality, Alaska State Troopers said that the recording showed that Treadwell was pleading for his girlfriend to save him and yelling at her to hit the Bear with a frying pan.

I hate documentaries where they flat out lie.
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
26878 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:01 pm to
Cartoony definitely wasn't the best word to use to describe what changed for me trying to watch LotR post-GoT but one was shown on HBO and the other could air on network TV.

quote:

LOTR is the goat trilogy.



Those frickin' hobbit movies were boring as hell. All it was, was a bunch of people walking, three movies of people walking to a fricking volcano.
Posted by Michael T. Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
8213 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:06 pm to
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I hate to say this one, but Star Wars at large. Loved the franchise, was obsessed with it until recently, but it betrayed everything the franchise stood for. I’ve unfortunately come to the conclusion that there are only two great movies in the franchise, 4 ok ones, and the rest are shite (haven’t seen IX or Solo). It is the most overrated franchise and I think by a long shot at that despite how influential it was on cinema. I can still enjoy some of the films, but I no longer get the ecstasy I used to feel for these movies anymore. I still get that from Lord of the Rings though.


Same. I was even okay with the Special Editions until the sequel trilogy. Now, I’ve even retreated to the Despecialized Versions of the original. I like The Mandalorian and a few other things including The Clone Wars, but I am not as fanatical as I used to be because the mythology and the mysticism really was ruined by George Lucas and absolutely destroyed by Disney.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79032 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:17 pm to
I think this debate over McCandless is exactly why it's a great book and decent movie. Some say he's a hero, others hate him, most are probably conflicted in that they have some mixed admiration for someone giving it up to go do something stupid and adventurous, but they hate what he did to his family, his recklessness, the idea of glorifying irresponsibility.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
26432 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:30 pm to
LoL, I remember being absolutely devastated in 1986 when Optimus Prime and almost all the original characters were killed. I swore off all transformers until the movies came out. Still haven't seen all of them though.
Posted by hogcard1964
Illinois
Member since Jan 2017
10333 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 9:43 pm to
That audio was leaked and for awhile could be found on YouTube.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20266 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 9:55 pm to
quote:

I hate to say this one, but Star Wars at large. Loved the franchise, was obsessed with it until recently, but it betrayed everything the franchise stood for. I’ve unfortunately come to the conclusion that there are only two great movies in the franchise, 4 ok ones, and the rest are shite (haven’t seen IX or Solo). It is the most overrated franchise and I think by a long shot at that despite how influential it was on cinema. I can still enjoy some of the films, but I no longer get the ecstasy I used to feel for these movies anymore. I still get that from Lord of the Rings though.

I'm with ya on that, to a large extent.

I grew up with the OT, saw all 3 in the theaters opening weekend.
I remember it systematically downgrading over the years- after Star Wars, I remember the original "based-on" stuff like Splinter of the Mind's Eye, Han Solo at Star's End, the Star Wars daily comics in the papers, the comic books etc. It always was Luke and Leia as a couple, Han and Chewy doing moderately shady stuff but being good guys, etc. And the fear of Vader hanging in the background.

ESB killed that off, but did at least give us more canon material and good visuals. I never quite cared for some of the directions it and Return of the Jedi went, but overall it was great.

The prequel trilogy wasn't what I expected at all, but at least gave us a bit of history (again, wasn't the history I imagined).

The sequels ruined both the OT and the sequels. I now can't bring myself to watch any of them. They're like season 8 of GoT.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 10:32 pm to
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The sequels ruined both the OT and the sequels. I now can't bring myself to watch any of them. They're like season 8 of GoT.


Yeah, I went on a two week rant saying how I’d never watch Star Wars again and certainly not Solo and Episode IX, I’ve only seen the first two episodes of the Mandarlorian due to a friend demanding it of me in person… and he told me Episode IX was terrible and not watch it.

The franchise is like a dead relative to me. I think of it in similar nostalgia as I look back to my grandfather. They were great times, I wish he was still around, but he’s dead. I can look back at it very fondly, but the fact of the matter is he’s never coming back. In a less exaggerated way, that’s how I feel about Star Wars.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 10:37 pm
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