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re: WATCHMEN Season Long Thread - S1, EP9 (season finale): "See How They Fly"

Posted on 12/2/19 at 2:27 pm to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 2:27 pm to
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I am curious with only 2 episodes left, how they plan on landing the Veidt plot line since it is intended to be a 1 season thing. Seems like we’ve got a long way to go to put him into place to matter to the main plot. Maybe we get a Veidt heavy episode next week?

As someone with zero knowledge of the comics and just started by watching this series, should I know what the heck is going on with the Veidt plotline?


I'm not sure if I've missed some things along the way but i'm thoroughly lost on his role in this show.
Posted by jumbo
Franklin
Member since Dec 2011
4588 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 2:33 pm to
The video Keene makes Looking Glass watch in Little Fear of Lightning should have summed it up for you.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 2:34 pm
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
35691 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 3:16 pm to
I could see Veidt being Trieus father. They’re both geniuses and that would explain where she got her brains from. Both obsessed with saving humanity too.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 3:17 pm
Posted by BaDoing
Member since Oct 2019
352 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 3:54 pm to
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I could see Veidt being Trieus father


SAVE ME DAUGHTER

Ozymandias's message on the moon of Europa
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
5135 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 4:08 pm to
If Lady Trieu is supposed to save him who put him up there in the first place? Doesn't make sense if it was Manhattan since he's been locked away in human form of Cal for who knows how long.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 4:17 pm to
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As someone with zero knowledge of the comics and just started by watching this series, should I know what the heck is going on with the Veidt plotline?

There are definitely some parallels to Tales of the Black Freighter which is a comic within the original Watchmen comics. It's about a sailor marooned on an island by pirates and makes it back home by making a raft out of the dead bodies of his shipmates. I believe there was a portion of it in each chapter of the book, just like us getting one scene in each episode.
Posted by illuminatic
Manipulating politicans&rappers
Member since Sep 2012
6962 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 8:52 pm to
Just watched the episode. Am I wrong that the elephant could be interpreted as "the elephant in the room" regarding the Dr. Manhattan reveal in the next scenes? Or is that a stretch? Lol
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 8:54 pm
Posted by OystermanTiger
Jacksonville, Fl.
Member since Mar 2015
578 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:56 pm to
This series just keeps getting better and better.
I was having some trouble with This Extraordinary Being but it was just a rough episode and paid off in An Almost Religious Awe. WOW. Just wow...
The elephant used to store memory because they never forget.
And Angela not asking who Dr.M was definitely told you she already knew. Of course as soon as she showed up back at home it all came clear. There were a lot of hints earlier but it didn’t hit me until then.
Laurie scenes are just gold too.
Oh, and you know I loved the Oysterman Fine Watches In Brooklyn in the flashback (memory?).
Can’t wait for next episode.

I think once this is over I am going to have to binge it to find all the stuff I’ve missed.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37574 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:17 pm to
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Just watched the episode. Am I wrong that the elephant could be interpreted as "the elephant in the room" regarding the Dr. Manhattan reveal in the next scenes? Or is that a stretch? Lol

Stretch.

How about elephants have the best memories? Huh? They never forget anything? Thus memories might be stored in them as living hosts perhaps?
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14414 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:29 pm to
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instrumental of Bowie's "Life on Mars?" played as we all thought DR.M to be on Mars, but DR.M was living in Tulsa. was better than Devo's space junk


Don’t forget Hall and Oates Everytime You Go Away.

Reznor is a God amongst men.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77940 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:06 am to
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Y’know the old myth about elephants having great memories?
uh, it's not a myth.

Also the tube is 2 way in Angela's arm. The elephant is retrieving all her memories for trei which is how she figured out Angela's secrets. She's downloading her brain even as she clears up her father's memories.
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 12:17 am
Posted by BaDoing
Member since Oct 2019
352 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:57 pm to
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f Lady Trieu is supposed to save him who put him up there in the first place?


I wonder if he did not put himself up there in the first place. Once his role in 11/2 came out he may ave wanted to get away from actual humans. After being on Europa for a while, he have realized it was not such a great idea.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112204 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 3:18 pm to
Not my theory but it’s possible that Dr Manhattan put him up there when he became Kal in order to either punish Veidt or prevent him from finding out that Dr Manhattan was back on earth

The “crash” that marked the start of DM becoming Kal was in 2009.

Now Veidt has been officially missing since 2012, however his last public appearance was back in 2007 so the timeline can match up

We’ve seen 4 years already of Veidt on the planet. It’s possible he’s been there longer or we will see more years go by to match up with the current timeline.


Kind of flimsy but they can make it work


quote:

I wonder if he did not put himself up there in the first place. Once his role in 11/2 came out he may ave wanted to get away from actual humans. After being on Europa for a while, he have realized it was not such a great idea.


He didn’t go missing until 2012 officially, possibly a few year earlier unofficially. The info about him possibly being behind 11/2 has been floated around by the New Frontiersman since the late 80s
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 3:21 pm
Posted by DukeSilver
Member since Jan 2014
2719 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:37 pm to
Do we know why DM has been disguising himself as Cal?
Posted by schatman
Montana
Member since Nov 2018
2602 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:37 am to
To feel again? To have a semblance of normal life? Cheesy, but may be true.

Also- Cal=Kal=Kal El= most powerful being
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112204 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:00 pm to
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Also- Cal=Kal=Kal El= most powerful being


Another redditer called this plot weeks ago because of the Blue Dildo Agent Blake was using. Based on the plans in the Petey pedia, the name for it was “Excalibar”

Which you can break down to “(My) Ex, Cal Abar”
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
5135 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

Another redditer called this plot weeks ago because of the Blue Dildo Agent Blake was using. Based on the plans in the Petey pedia, the name for it was “Excalibar”

Which you can break down to “(My) Ex, Cal Abar”


Mind blown
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112204 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:16 pm to
Yeah reddit went DEEP on this show even matched up Kals knuckle to a shot of DMs knuckle and pointed out the lines match up

Good thing is the writers don’t seem to mind that people guess where the show is going. Unlike some other HBO show that seemed to be determined to create an ending that no one saw coming instead of a good one
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34172 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 4:05 pm to
Tonight's episode should be legit, I love the title. Theres also going to be a post credit scene.
Posted by Mrtommorrow1987
Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2008
13119 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 4:15 pm to
Did we ever find out who, what, and why the frick lube man that went into the sewers was about?
This post was edited on 12/8/19 at 4:18 pm
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