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re: True Detective S1E08 "Form And Void"

Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:42 am to
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:42 am to
And, of course, that refusal to change one's mind works both ways - to people that don't like someting as well as to people that do.
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Posted by Festus
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:50 am to
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well people have a strange psychological fascination with sticking with things they thought they didn't like, even after it turns out to be something they like. people lie to themselves and change their tune to remain consistent in their confirmation bias


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people WANT to believe the show is still not good


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humans are very good at lying to themselves. we protect our psyche/ego


You said a mouthful there Jake.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:51 am to
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It a type of non-contradiction that we all enforce. So yeah there has been plenty of self-deception going on in here. SFP, you are the high priest!

i said long ago that the show wasn't what i had hoped it to be. i hoped i was wrong, but it unfolded as i figured

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:52 am to
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to people that don't like someting as well as to people that do.

long before there were any worries that the investigation would be thrown away, i was talking about how i didn't like Rust

i don't know what you expect me to do when i don't like a character, and the show basically becomes about him primarily
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:57 am to
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i don't know what you expect me to do when i don't like a character, and the show basically becomes about him primarily

Well, we're counting on you to get this thread up over 100 pages.

Posted by EarthwormJim
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:06 am to
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the investigation would be thrown away


Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:09 am to
SFP you have the "it" factor when it comes to True Detective. Never has a man said so much, understood so little, and been heard by so many!
Posted by Walking the Earth
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:40 pm to
He was definitely a big fan of the show, whether he realizes it or not.
Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 2:21 pm to
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how unrealistic rust
can you give some in-depth analysis of this conclusion that you came to half way through the first episode?
Posted by rebeloke
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 2:26 pm to
SFP taste colors and shite...
Posted by L S Usetheforce
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 2:31 pm to
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i said long ago that the show wasn't what i had hoped it to be. i hoped i was wrong, but it unfolded as i figured


I'm surprised you haven't been slapped by your father, a judge, or a decent human being in the face yet; changing your condition.

The merging of the inflated self-concept and the actual self is so strong.

ICD-9 301.81
This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 2:45 pm
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by DanglingFury
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:04 pm to
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i hoped i was wrong


Alright, now you're just flat out fricking with people.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:45 pm to
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can you give some in-depth analysis of this conclusion that you came to half way through the first episode?

i have about 100 times already

people like rust don't get hired, let alone promoted, in bureaucratic institutions like a police force

1. he's too smart
2. he doesn't think like a worker bee
3. he doesn't follow orders

rust is a character written to say cool shite. i could take it as long as it was a means to move the plot forward, but when he becomes basically the main focus of the show, it's an issue.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:45 pm to
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Alright, now you're just flat out fricking with people.

i wouldn't have watched the last 2 episodes if i didn't think i might be wrong
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:47 pm to
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I'm surprised you haven't been slapped by your father, a judge, or a decent human being in the face yet; changing your condition.




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ICD-9 301.81

lol. i'm basically the opposite of the DSM-IV definition of this. i don't know if it changed in the new edition though
Posted by Blondie
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 4:51 pm to
I just finsihed watching all 8 episodes. Amazing. Scared the frick out of me too. I never want anyone to say "Lets make flowers"
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 5:02 pm to
funny that you post here...
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 5:18 pm to
You would look cute with antlers imo
Posted by jg8623
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 6:31 pm to
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well people have a strange psychological fascination with sticking with things they thought they liked, even after it turns out to be something they don't like. people lie to themselves and change their tune to remain consistent in their confirmation bias it happens with media, especially tv shows, often. there was a great thread a few weeks ago about giving up on tv shows. the underlying explanations in that thread explain why this happens. people WANT to believe the show is still good


You're doing the exact same thing. You were the one with the negative view towards the show and have been biased ever since. You make your opinion on the show as if it's fact, and that if anyone says they actually liked the entire show that they must be lying to themselves.

If you don't think this was a good tv show, you're lying to yourself more than anyone in this thread
This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 6:35 pm
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