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re: tOfficial Better Call Saul S06E06 “Axe and Grind” Thread

Posted on 5/17/22 at 10:58 am to
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 10:58 am to
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Does anyone else think this season sucks so far?
Huell Babineaux ruined it when he broke the fourth wall and spoke as a critic of the show. "Why are we doing this?"
Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 11:09 am to
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I guess my quesiton would be what is kim's motivation to completely and totally ruin jimmy's entire life/world? She's never been motivated by money, and she's never been outright evil.



While I see Kim taking off as being plausible, I'm leaning more towards her being caught and out of the picture due to legal reasons. Jimmy knows when to cut bait while Kim seems to not be concerned about flying too close to the sun.

She turned away from a legit source of funding to go chase a compromised, and illegal, plan to torpedo a fellow attorney. She's put herself in jeopardy.

Cliff Main will know she didn't show at the meeting the same day whatever excitement happens during the mediation.

Either way, the marriage is business to her.

btw-If she moved out she'd likely take her belongings, and decorations, with her. If she is in prison that stuff would stay behind, allowing reuse by Saul.

I'm just not sure how she would be charged with something while Jimmy skates.

Just some stream of consciousness.
This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 11:10 am
Posted by RonLaFlamme
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 11:17 am to
I agree it would be brutal…..I’m skeptical of it happening though.

She’s been quite devoted to him throughout the series, even as friends and when there relationship was more casual. The tears when he was missing in the desert. Defending him in court. Standing by him when he was suspended and selling cell phones for a year.

It would rip my heart out for sure.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 11:39 am to
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It would rip my heart out for sure.


It would be the ultimate betrayal for sure!
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 11:49 am to
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In all honesty, that would make complete sense IMO and would be a great trigger for Jimmy to not only lean fully into Saul, but become him permanently.

I don't quite know if she's a bad enough person to do that to Jimmy, and that would go completely against character for her seeing as how much she's done and put on the line for him. But it would definitely be something that would push Jimmy into not giving any fricks anymore.
you got it. losing Kim one way or another will push him all in, into Saul. Kim is the only connection he has left to Jimmy.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 11:51 am to
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I'm just not sure how she would be charged with something while Jimmy skates.
she is somehow responsible for Howard's death.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 11:51 am to
It would be an incredible call back to the sheep and wolves thing. And would explain why Saul is so Saul and why Kim isn't in bb.
Posted by Corso
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 11:53 am to
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I'm starting to think the theory that Kim is just with Jimmy to get the Sandpiper money and then pops smoke may have some legs. Without that payday there would be no reason to go after him like they are and if you watch how they interact there is very little intimacy. And what there is seems forced.

An example is when Jimmy is excited and kisses her. She's actually kind of leaning back. And when they go their separate ways in the morning he kisses her on the cheek.


Wow, this sounds legit

Posted by jlovel7
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:09 pm to
Kim has had a sudden turn. Not a slight one. If she breaks bad hard in the time of half a season that mimics Daenerys turn in S8 or thrones. There’s been a steady trickle but I feel like there hasn’t been enough to break the dam other than the writers just saying so.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:10 pm to
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Wow, this sounds legit



I came across the theory of Kim leaving a week or so ago.

The lack of physical attraction is something I have noticed since they got married.

The awkward kisses and even more awkward references to their marriage, Fransesca isn't the first time Kim has acted that way, reinforce the her leaving theory in my mind.
This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 12:12 pm
Posted by jlovel7
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:12 pm to
How about Kim is also just sort of an awkward and weird person. She clearly had an unhealthy relationship with her parents. I think if she screwed over jimmy in some kind of long con that would just not make sense at all.

Not saying it wouldn’t be devastating or push him to Saul, I just feel like we’ve had no indication at all even in hints that that’s in her character. It would feel pulled out of thin air.

ETA: I’m betting they push Howard too far and he commits suicide.
This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 12:13 pm
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:26 pm to
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The lack of physical attraction is something I have noticed since they got married.

The awkward kisses and even more awkward references to their marriage, Fransesca isn't the first time Kim has acted that way, reinforce the her leaving theory in my mind.



Wasn't it also her idea to get married to use the spousal privilege?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:29 pm to
I don't think it would necessarily be a long con. What with the Gus and Lalo stuff in the background there would be plenty of ways for the writers to force Kim into a decision to leave.

Or Howard offing himself making her realize the gravity of what she has done is a possibility.

I don't think she has planned to get the money and run from the start. She can be ruthless but I don't see her being that cold and calculating with Jimmy. Rather it is possible that is what ends up happening due to other circumstances.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:33 pm to
Please let me know if I have this right.. or close to right..

Jimmy already had pictures of him and the judge when he found out the judge had a broken arm. So it seems that Jimmy was going to somehow get these pictures to Howard so Howard would think the judge is in kahoots with Jimmy. I guess Howard was going to accuse the judge of this malfeasance if the judge didn't mediate in their favor.. Howard would produce the photos during the mediation and have the judge deny any allegations of wrongdoing. All of this while his pupils are dilated from the stuff that Jimmy got from the vet.. Typing it out now, it makes no sense.
Also, how careless was it of Jimmy and Kim to set up a picnic blanket on the lawn of HHM? I'm sure there are cameras. Was that some part of the plan?
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:40 pm to
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I don't think she has planned to get the money and run from the start.


Maybe at a certain point she flipped a switch? Like when she visited Lalo in jail? Or when Lalo was in her fricking living room? Damn, I might have to go back and watch to see if the writers left any clues and I just didn't pick up on them because it was never on my radar..

Also, has Ham approved this alternate ending yet?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:48 pm to
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Also, has Ham approved this alternate ending yet?



Ham can;

Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:56 pm to
Ham you forgot to upvote one of your posts.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:00 pm to
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Or Howard offing himself making her realize the gravity of what she has done is a possibility.

This is what I think is more than likely. Not so much Howard killing himself...that would straight up shock me. But something triggering Kim back to reality and having to step away because she's in too deep. She loves dabbling with the bad shite, and has shifted remarkably more in that direction this season. But she still is the moral one at heart, and something will shake her back to that IMO.

It's either that or she's dead/disappeared.

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Also, how careless was it of Jimmy and Kim to set up a picnic blanket on the lawn of HHM? I'm sure there are cameras. Was that some part of the plan?

I said the same thing watching last night. It's so egregiously sloppy that you have to wonder if it's part of the plan to have them "get caught" somehow. I know that's been mentioned before too (them running the long con and getting caught is part of it).
This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 1:02 pm
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:09 pm to
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It's so egregiously sloppy that you have to wonder if it's part of the plan to have them "get caught" somehow. I know that's been mentioned before too (them running the long con and getting caught is part of it).


I just wish I understood
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:12 pm to
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I don't think she has planned to get the money and run from the start. She can be ruthless but I don't see her being that cold and calculating with Jimmy. Rather it is possible that is what ends up happening due to other circumstances.


I think the money has such importance to her because she doesn't want to be dependent on anybody, even Cliff and that legal charitable organization, for her practice. In her mind, what they give they can take away so leaving them in the dust to make sure the Howard plan goes off on schedule makes sense according to that logic.

I don't think Kim rips Jimmy off and bails because we see Jimmy's lavish house at the beginning of this season and I don't think that all came from just 16 months or so of laundering Walt and Jesse's money so I think the Sandpiper money is part of that. The only question is what happened to Kim.

Is she in jail? Dead? On the run? Did she use the vaccum guy, not out of legal necessity but to start a new life out of guilt?

For that matter, what number did Jimmy give Francesca to use last season in that flash forward? A lot of us (including me) assumed at the time that it was Howard's but that it looking increasingly unlikely. In a modified version of the Ham Solo theory, is Saul using some of his dirty money to secretly bankroll Kim's pro bono work in some other location? Not likely but I'm trying to figure out an endgame that doesn't just come out of left field at the last minute.
This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 1:13 pm
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