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The Sandlot: they should’ve had someone coaching third base
Posted on 12/11/22 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 12/11/22 at 4:22 pm
…because Benny was an especially terrible baserunner always selfishly trying to stretch triples into home runs.
My three year old has been wanting to watch this over and over lately, which is fine by me since it’s arguably the best sports movie ever made and reminds me of my childhood. But the more I watch it the more stuff stands out to me.
I’ve made a thread before about how in the final scene, Benny is arguably out at home. But that’s an unpopular opinion. But another thing that stands out to me now is how much of an a-hole Bill is. Dude constantly tells Smalls he’s gonna teach him how to play catch with no intention of doing so. And then when he finally does he throws him a fricking curve ball?? The kid literally can’t catch yet and doesn’t even have a real glove and you’re humming curves at him? Not to mention that aside from not actually teaching him how to catch you also don’t teach him how to throw. Telling him over and over to “keep your eye on the ball” isn’t actually showing or teaching him shite. And you even see him roll it to you because he can’t throw it. So of course he looks like a total goofus when he tries to throw it at the sandlot.
Also, it really bugs me that Benny tells Smalls AFTER they play to bring a new hat and gives him his old one that’s been in his pocket all day. Why not give it to him earlier if you had it with you?
My three year old has been wanting to watch this over and over lately, which is fine by me since it’s arguably the best sports movie ever made and reminds me of my childhood. But the more I watch it the more stuff stands out to me.
I’ve made a thread before about how in the final scene, Benny is arguably out at home. But that’s an unpopular opinion. But another thing that stands out to me now is how much of an a-hole Bill is. Dude constantly tells Smalls he’s gonna teach him how to play catch with no intention of doing so. And then when he finally does he throws him a fricking curve ball?? The kid literally can’t catch yet and doesn’t even have a real glove and you’re humming curves at him? Not to mention that aside from not actually teaching him how to catch you also don’t teach him how to throw. Telling him over and over to “keep your eye on the ball” isn’t actually showing or teaching him shite. And you even see him roll it to you because he can’t throw it. So of course he looks like a total goofus when he tries to throw it at the sandlot.
Also, it really bugs me that Benny tells Smalls AFTER they play to bring a new hat and gives him his old one that’s been in his pocket all day. Why not give it to him earlier if you had it with you?
This post was edited on 12/11/22 at 4:39 pm
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Posted on 12/11/22 at 5:39 pm to CocomoLSU
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CocomoLSU
Posted on 12/12/22 at 1:37 am to CocomoLSU
Big Chief, the best.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 1:39 am to CocomoLSU
Squints was focusing on taking third base from Wendy Peffercorn
if you catch my drift
if you catch my drift
Posted on 12/12/22 at 6:55 am to Snoopy04
Until the Rewatchables episode about The Sandlot, I didn’t know what L7 was. It’s a square.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 7:13 am to CocomoLSU
Kids don't have someone coaching third base, bro
Posted on 12/12/22 at 7:16 am to CocomoLSU
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Also, it really bugs me that Benny tells Smalls AFTER they play to bring a new hat and gives him his old one that’s been in his pocket all day. Why not give it to him earlier if you had it with you?
And who keeps a hat in their pocket anyway?
Posted on 12/12/22 at 7:22 am to LSUBoo
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CocomoLSU
Man, this is baseball. You gotta stop thinking.
And
You bob for apples in the toilet, and you LIKE it!
Posted on 12/12/22 at 8:29 am to CocomoLSU
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I’ve made a thread before about how in the final scene, Benny is arguably out at home.
Can you link this, I don’t remember seeing it.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 8:30 am to CocomoLSU
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Not to mention that aside from not actually teaching him how to catch you also don’t teach him how to throw.
If he knew Smalls had a paper route and could throw paper, maybe Bill I mean dad assumed Scotty could throw a ball. Hence the dumbfounded look during catch.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 8:35 am to CaptainsWafer
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Bill I mean dad assumed Scotty could throw a ball. Hence the dumbfounded look during catch.
i honestly don't remember "teaching" either of my sons how to throw.
they just instinctively threw a toy/ball/something or other.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 8:37 am to CocomoLSU
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Why not give it to him earlier if you had it with you?
because that's what friends are for.
make you look like a dipshit all day before telling you you look like a dipshit.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 8:42 am to CocomoLSU
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The kid literally can’t catch yet and doesn’t even have a real glove and you’re humming curves at him?
Benny hits one into his glove and tells him about the paper route thing, and suddenly he’s just as good as the rest of the kids out there?
WTF
Posted on 12/12/22 at 8:44 am to upgrade
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Benny hits one into his glove
One of the more impressive sports feats ever put on film.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 8:57 am to SixthAndBarone
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Kids don't have someone coaching third base, bro
Correct. That's exactly the point of this thread. Bro.
We should do an overanalyze thread of The Sandlot.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 9:08 am to upgrade
I don't buy for one damn minute that a boy that age didn't know how to throw a baseball.
I have a 2 year old niece who has figured out how to throw objects without any instruction whatsoever.
I can buy that he never learned how to catch, that requires at least a little practice. But to never have thrown a spherical object is just not possible.
I have a 2 year old niece who has figured out how to throw objects without any instruction whatsoever.
I can buy that he never learned how to catch, that requires at least a little practice. But to never have thrown a spherical object is just not possible.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 9:12 am to CocomoLSU
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But another thing that stands out to me now is how much of an a-hole Bill is. Dude constantly tells Smalls he’s gonna teach him how to play catch with no intention of doing so. And then when he finally does he throws him a fricking curve ball?? The kid literally can’t catch yet and doesn’t even have a real glove and you’re humming curves at him? Not to mention that aside from not actually teaching him how to catch you also don’t teach him how to throw. Telling him over and over to “keep your eye on the ball” isn’t actually showing or teaching him shite.
I had many difficult years trying to accept Dennis Leary in any role because I hated the guy so much. Dude married the mom but treated that kid like crap. Dickhead.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 9:17 am to CocomoLSU
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because Benny was an especially terrible baserunner always selfishly trying to stretch triples into home runs.
Benny is a baserunning legend. Nobody, and I mean nobody, should hold him up at the third if he thinks he can make it home. You let him make the call. Live by the Jet, die by the Jet.
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Benny is arguably out at home.
How dare you.
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But another thing that stands out to me now is how much of an a-hole Bill is. Dude constantly tells Smalls he’s gonna teach him how to play catch with no intention of doing so. And then when he finally does he throws him a fricking curve ball?? The kid literally can’t catch yet and doesn’t even have a real glove and you’re humming curves at him? Not to mention that aside from not actually teaching him how to catch you also don’t teach him how to throw. Telling him over and over to “keep your eye on the ball” isn’t actually showing or teaching him shite. And you even see him roll it to you because he can’t throw it. So of course he looks like a total goofus when he tries to throw it at the sandlot.
Yea Bill is a jackass. For a dude that clearly loves baseball, he has zero interest in trying to teach someone how to play baseball. Bill also probably has a little more money than the movie leads on. I don't care what year it was, that was a pricey baseball to have laying around. Mr. Mertle gave up a ball that would probably be a 100k+ baseball now.
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Also, it really bugs me that Benny tells Smalls AFTER they play to bring a new hat and gives him his old one that’s been in his pocket all day. Why not give it to him earlier if you had it with you?
You gotta see if he's worth keeping first.Give him the glove and hat and he doesn't end up working out and never catching the fly ball, the gang doesn't accept him and you lose a perfectly good hat and glove.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 9:25 am to DiamondDog
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I had many difficult years trying to accept Dennis Leary in any role because I hated the guy so much. Dude married the mom but treated that kid like crap. Dickhead.
The motherfricker is supporting the kid and his mother, putting a roof over their head, clothes on their backs, and food on the table.
He's busy damnit
Posted on 12/12/22 at 9:33 am to iwyLSUiwy
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Benny is a baserunning legend. Nobody, and I mean nobody, should hold him up at the third if he thinks he can make it home. You let him make the call. Live by the Jet, die by the Jet.
And that's fine, but it doesn't absolve him from making stupid baserunning decisions...which he seems to do a lot.
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How dare you.
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Ball beats him there, and the catcher seems to be touching him by the time his hand touches the plate. Here's my old thread about it. Although none of the pics show up anymore so it may not make much sense.
And I remember basically arguing that even he was safe (obviously the call was safe and there were no challenges or reviews back then) it was an awful slide by a MLB pinch runner.
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You gotta see if he's worth keeping first.Give him the glove and hat and he doesn't end up working out and never catching the fly ball, the gang doesn't accept him and you lose a perfectly good hat and glove.
I can actually buy that explanation honestly. But it still seems odd after reaching out to the kid and clearly throwing him a bone to help him make friends, that you wouldn't immediately be like "Dude, ditch the hat and take this one." Also, he needed the glove to play because his toy glove was broken from that a-hole Bill's curveball. Douche.
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