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The Office “Paper Airplane” episode

Posted on 7/20/21 at 7:36 pm
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/20/21 at 7:36 pm
A.k.a the Jim/Pam “speak my truth” episode.

Holy shite, Pam sucks so hard in this episode. I’m not even saying that she doesn’t have a point about being at home with the kids when Jim is gone. But man, she’s such a bitch in this one. Snarky remark and doesn’t even appreciate when Jim gets her a tea. And then she steps up the sarcasm big time when Jim gets an obviously important phone call from Philly about a huge client (Cole Hamels) that likely would’ve only taken a minute or two. Also, it didn’t make sense when she said she’s been putting the kids to bed by herself “for months and you had to miss one phone call.” If Jim is in town, I assume he helps with the kids..?

Just a really strange episode. They sure tried their best to ruin Pam’s character in the later couple of seasons. This was also the one after the “Pam goes to Brian the sound guy’s house” one.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 7:54 am
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
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Posted on 7/20/21 at 7:49 pm to
Thought all the contrived drama between Jim and Pam later on really ruined their arc for me.
Posted by OptimusDawg
Hangin With the Wolves
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Posted on 7/20/21 at 7:49 pm to
She turned into a whiny bitch the last couple seasons. Agreed to everything with Jim, then bitch and moaned about it.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 7/20/21 at 8:11 pm to
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She turned into a whiny bitch the last couple seasons.
So a typical woman after getting married and having young kids?
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 7/20/21 at 8:33 pm to
Believe it or not the original plan from the writers was to have them get divorced.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35429 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:13 pm to
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Believe it or not the original plan from the writers was to have them get divorced.




That would've made more sense. And then Jim learns, never marry a girl who leaves her husband for the office fling.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:25 pm to
Divorce would’ve ruined their storyline though. As much as we all hate on them, especially Pam, I think ultimately people wanted them to make it. Because they were the most “normal” and associable/relatable people, especially “everyman” Jim.

But good Lord Pam goes hard into bitch mode in this one. She just kinda goes at Jim nonstop and goes from passive aggressive to just aggressive. They do try to rebound it with the end scene where she brings him his umbrella, but by then you just kinda hate her the whole time. And I’ll reiterate that Jim handled the Philly thing badly at times, but at least he seems genuine with trying to pep talk her into thinking it will be okay. She just sucks in this one.

As annoying as the “speaking my truth” thing is though, it sets up a great line for Clark when he speaks his truth about wanting them to let him hit up on the bud they’re smoking.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 7/20/21 at 9:31 pm to
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relatable people


Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/20/21 at 10:12 pm to
You don’t think Jim is the most relatable person on the show, in terms of who most people think they are like in their offices? If nothing else you have to admit he’s the “everyman” character moreso than anybody else, no?

In other news, the finale is on now and I can’t believe how absolutely perfect it is. Especially the Michael reveal. Never has a “that’s what she said” gotten me choked up, but I’ll be damned if it doesn’t make me smile stupidly and tear up a little. “Michael, I can’t believe you came..” It’s so great.
Posted by BCLA
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Posted on 7/20/21 at 10:15 pm to
Angela/Dwight arc >>>>>>>>> Jim/Pam's
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35429 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 10:19 pm to
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You don’t think Jim is the most relatable person on the show,


Jim is obsessed with being a child (pranks), being a douche a lot (how he makes fun of everyone else), has an inflated ego and steals the wife of a guy who works in the warehouse.

Stanley is the most relatable. Just shows up to work, leave me alone and let me do my job and not interested in Office politics or hijinks. He just wants to sell paper and go home.

That's most people at work...only a few in an office environment get to crazy in your business mode at work.

Stanley minds his own business and expects the same courtesy from others.
Posted by BranchDawg
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 7/20/21 at 10:23 pm to
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Thought all the contrived drama between Jim and Pam later on really ruined their arc for me.


Contrived drama tends to happen when a series goes 3 seasons longer than it should have.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21849 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 10:32 pm to
Darrell is the most relatable. Dude just wants to run his warehouse without people from other departments getting in his way, enjoy some sports, have a little fun at work without doing crazy stuff, and milk a workplace injury for a little extra time off
Posted by BamaDude06
GOATville20
Member since Jan 2007
3475 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 10:36 pm to
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steals the wife of a guy who works in the warehouse.


You mean the guy that wouldn't commit to the date of the wedding for over 3 years? Constantly put down Pam? Clearly was controling, etc? Jim was a saint compared to Roy.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29140 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 6:03 am to
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Darrell is the most relatable.


along with Toby and Roy and Phyllis. None of them are over the top.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11048 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 7:06 am to
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Stanley is the most relatable. Just shows up to work, leave me alone and let me do my job and not interested in Office politics or hijinks. He just wants to sell paper and go home.

And have extra marital affairs. Don’t forget the affairs. Stanley cheats on his wife, and then cheats on his wife and mistress.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50599 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 7:31 am to
Did you see this on comedy central last night as well
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 7:37 am to
You do realize Roy and Pam weren't married, right?
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 8:09 am to
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And have extra marital affairs. Don’t forget the affairs. Stanley cheats on his wife, and then cheats on his wife and mistress.


And on top of that, he didn't care about anything other than money and his crosswords. And pretzels I guess.

But he literally didn't pay attention in any meetings, nor did he participate in anything other than sitting there and ignoring everything. I get the original point about coming to work and leaving people alone and all that, but that dude barely even participated in conversations, let alone other things (other than when he took over the who would you do/desert island game from Jim early in the series). The only person he really talked to was Phyllis here and there.

I mean shite, they did a cold open about how little he gives a frick about anything, including his coworkers, and how fake he is.
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
13280 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 8:17 am to
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and steals the wife of a guy who works in the warehouse.


1) Pam wasn't married to Roy
2) Pam left Roy after Jim moved to the other DM office
3) Roy had a chance to get her back and ended up throwing shite at the bar in a tantrum
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