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The Infantilization of Popular Culture
The Infantilization of Popular Culture (10m34s)


I look forward to great debate of the topic discussed in the video in lieu of downvotes and attacking the messenger.



kingbob
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re: The Infantilization of Popular Culture
10 minute plus video? You must be joking. The topic is no joke, though, and blatantly obvious, especially on social media. It’s all about 20-somethings still pretending their 12 eating chicken nuggets, watching cartoons, and making dumb nicknames for things that a 5 year old would come up with, all with a big side of weed, juul, and alcohol.

At the same time, it feels like teens, even tweens, are increasingly sexualized.

It’s this weird narrative that seems to be attempting to simultaneously:
1. Promote adults behaving like children and lacking any life skills
2. Normalize pedophelia
3. Give voting rights to teenagers
4. Take away virtually all other rights from young adults
5. Promote student debt forgiveness
6. Continue dumbing down the population


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scrooster
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re: The Infantilization of Popular Culture
We actually need a good major catastrophe of some kind to knock some sense back into society and weed out the weak minded.

Instead we get countless shtf teotwawki movies where suddenly, outta nowhere, these kids come forward, band together and save the world from the asteroid strikes, nuclear wars, super volcano eruptions, climate meltdowns and zombie apocalypse infestations set upon us by evil white men in the U.S.A. and Europe (not China, India, Pakistan, the Middle East or Africa mind you.)

Meantime prepping by people aged 35-65 has boomed exponentially to become a multibillion dollar industry since Katrina while, at the same, video game sales has matched that growth for the 34 and under crowd.

The math is easy to do.

Upvoted OP for daring to breach the topic.


chinese58
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re: The Infantilization of Popular Culture
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We actually need a good major catastrophe of some kind to knock some sense back into society and weed out the weak minded.


My dad said something similar about Timothy Leary hippies, and protesters, in the 60's. He used to say we needed another depression, so people would appreciate what they have. He was a big Goldwater and Nixon supporter. I always figured one of them said something similar, and it stuck with him.

ETA: That film went by quickly for 10 minutes.
This post was edited on 12/4 at 6:20 pm


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re: The Infantilization of Popular Culture
PJW is the fricking man. His best content is on architecture and modern art if anyone’s looking for more videos of the same vein


Jay Are
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re: The Infantilization of Popular Culture
The premise that comic book movies are so popular because 30-something millennial men have frozen their brains doesn't explain why they are so insanely popular with actual children (teens). Backing the premise up with Alan Moore doesn't help, as he also ignores that these films are more popular with teens than any other demographic. Yes, the man children exist, but they are not the ones who designate what popular culture is. Since at least the 1950s, that's been teens.

This video feels like a 30-something millennial, thinking he's smarter than he is, ultimately proving his millennial-ness by not being able to see the world outside the perspective of his own self-obsessed generation. He even makes fun of adult men thinking their Youtube videos contribute to the good of society. Where's his self-awareness? He calls out groups for lashing out against anyone who disagrees with them... in a way that sounds like lashing out against anyone who disagrees with him. Homeboy is part of the problem.

But at the end of the day, the idiots making Youtube videos of themselves crying about Star Wars and the dudes throwing fits about McDonalds sauces are not "accepted" by popular culture, as he says; they are laughed at by it. Try again, dude.


GreatLakesTiger24
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That video is so spot on. It seems like everyone and everything is constantly seeking nostalgia to the point it’s ridiculous
This post was edited on 12/4 at 7:26 pm


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Shreveporter
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re: The Infantilization of Popular Culture
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We actually need a good major catastrophe of some kind to knock some sense back into society and weed out the weak minded.


Have had a similar conversation with close friends and family but more along the lines of, "If the 'collapse' ever happens (grid goes down, famine hits, major war breaks out, etc), people will be laying down and dying in the streets because they won't have a clue how to care for or feed themselves without an app or a computer or a credit card." Re-watched the old "Red Dawn" with my family a few months back and that sparked a discussion about how today, if some large-scale invasion happened as it did in the movie, there wouldn't be a real resistance because people wouldn't know how to escape into the wilderness and survive.


Fatboy22
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re: The Infantilization of Popular Culture
The videos he shows are extreme examples. This is also a guy that spends 12 hours a day consumed with the trash that is the comments section of the internet and furiously typing on twitter arguing with the rest of the 2% of the population that makes the internet unbearable. So I'm not surprised by his world view. It is, as the rest of twitter and youtube a strange world that really does not paint a true picture of what most adults are doing with their lives.

I like marvel movies but I'm adult with things to do. The reason I like them is that I get a respite from the constant drone of how the world is burning and we're all gonna die.I also tried as a kid to imagine what it would look like to see the pages of the comic books come to life. CGI has enabled that and so yeah it does give me the opportunity to feel like a kid again. But only for a couple hours.


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re: The Infantilization of Popular Culture
I’d rather not return to the days of having a list of acceptable adult interests and media. I remember it well. It was boring and limited creativity.


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Nguyener
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re: The Infantilization of Popular Culture
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The premise that comic book movies are so popular because 30-something millennial men have frozen their brains


Marvel made legitimately awesome movies with very talented actors and screen writers and extremely well thought out and planned connected universe that had never been done before. They're for the most part directed extremely well also.

This stupid line about nastalgia being the only reason they are popular or that they aren't worthy of watching or discussing because they're based on comic books is asinine.


Brosef Stalin
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re: The Infantilization of Popular Culture
They have killed "real" action movies though. You don't see the type of movies Schwarznegger and Stallone did in the 80s anymore. Some of it still exists in the straight to video market and there's a few stars there but nothing like in the 80s. Even The Rock mostly does action comedies now. Nothing really gritty in mainstream.


Jay Are
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re: The Infantilization of Popular Culture
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They have killed "real" action movies though


And in the 90s, the old guys said they didn't make the gritty realistic action movies of the 70s. and in the 80s, old guys said they didn't make "real" action epics that were so popular in the 50s and 60s. And in the 70s, the old guys were wondering what happened to the gritty crime dramas of the 40s and 50s that action movies seemingly replaced.

That style of the 80s is now niche, just like noir, just like the historical epic. Tastes change. Marvel hasn't changed that.


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scrooster
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Have had a similar conversation with close friends and family but more along the lines of, "If the 'collapse' ever happens (grid goes down, famine hits, major war breaks out, etc), people will be laying down and dying in the streets because they won't have a clue how to care for or feed themselves without an app or a computer or a credit card." Re-watched the old "Red Dawn" with my family a few months back and that sparked a discussion about how today, if some large-scale invasion happened as it did in the movie, there wouldn't be a real resistance because people wouldn't know how to escape into the wilderness and survive.

You should read the book One Second After .... first in a three book trilogy.

Had heard the movie rights were bought up by someone and then shelved and likely never to be produced. Would be a shame if it isn't but, then again, Hollywood would not do it justice.

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The option for the film rights to One Second After was initially sold to Warner Bros., but has subsequently expired. As of August 2011, a new option was being negotiated with another studio, but it's unknown which one. 


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PEPE
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re: The Infantilization of Popular Culture
The feminization of pop culture is even more dramatically noticable.


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Emteein
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re: The Infantilization of Popular Culture
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They have killed "real" action movies though. You don't see the type of movies Schwarznegger and Stallone did in the 80s anymore. Some of it still exists in the straight to video market and there's a few stars there but nothing like in the 80s. Even The Rock mostly does action comedies now. Nothing really gritty in mainstream.


Do you even John wick? Sure he isn’t as ripped as Stallone or Schwarzenegger, but he has a body count.


PEPE
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re: The Infantilization of Popular Culture
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Have had a similar conversation with close friends and family but more along the lines of, "If the 'collapse' ever happens (grid goes down, famine hits, major war breaks out, etc), people will be laying down and dying in the streets because they won't have a clue how to care for or feed themselves without an app or a computer or a credit card


Famous saying.

Hard times create strong men.
Strong men create good times.
Good times create weak men.
Weak men create hard times.

If this is indeed a true cycle I think it's pretty damn clear where we are in the "good times creating weak men" stage.


Brosef Stalin
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re: The Infantilization of Popular Culture
John Wick is about it though. Even more adult dramas are rare and are mostly Oscar bait type stuff.


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scrooster
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re: The Infantilization of Popular Culture
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Famous saying.

Hard times create strong men.
Strong men create good times.
Good times create weak men.
Weak men create hard times.

If this is indeed a true cycle I think it's pretty damn clear where we are in the "good times creating weak men" stage.



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