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The First Purge

Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:12 am
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:12 am
I finally got around to watching this on HBO. It is just awful. It was a lot like the TV show. Very preachy (evil government wants to kill all the poor) and for some reason we are supposed to be rooting for a drug dealer. The whole franchise needs a reboot. It has got worse and worse. It had so much potential in the beginning..
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:14 am to
If you liked purge from the beginning you know it was always about purging the poor and problematic.

The first centered on it in the first half them changed to being about jealousy and keeping up with the Jones'.
Like most horror movies there should have just been one.
Posted by Carson123987
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:16 am to
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The whole franchise needs an abortion.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:16 am to
Also no laws bothers me. I mean no laws.

So I can go force people to sign over property to me and the next day it's still mine? Or does any crime revert back?
If I rob a bank during the purge do I get to keep the money the next day? Wouldn't I be breaking a law having the money even if I didn't break a law taking it?

Posted by Dale Murphy
God's Country
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:17 am to
Same. Was looking forward to it and finally watched it the other day. By far the worst of the series.
Posted by Joben88
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2011
430 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:21 am to
That movie was so so bad. Struggled to get through it.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9757 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:25 am to
It is a fascinating social experiment. The tenants of it just can't be disputed. If you eliminate the lower levels of society, we will flourish. To give people the extra bonus or ability to exercise their demons, enrich themselves or find cathartic revenge is genius. Thus the government is not responsible and charges the citizens with shaping society.

quote:

Also no laws bothers me. I mean no laws.


There are rules. You cannot kill certain officials or use heavy explosives. Anything you can steal will be yours, but there are no contracts established during the Purge. So no transfer of property/vehicles. If there is no crime, there can be no spoils from said crime. Money is just yours now. I'm pretty sure all cash, jewels, valuables are hidden away though..
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:30 am to
If you eliminate the poor the line of who is poor just moves up.

It must be hard to staff menial jobs in that society.

Though I mean, I hate to even think about it, but I have to say it's not a horrible idea.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9757 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:37 am to
The bottom 10-20% of the country doesn't work. That's not even counting all the disabled (mentally and physically), elderly and criminals. Most menial jobs could easily be replaced through automation with little effort or those jobs would just demand a higher wage as it would be more difficult to staff them. Housing would be plentiful. Bad neighborhoods could be flipped in a year or two. Eliminates the homeless. Drugs must be legalized or just not criminalized, since the vast amount of crime is associated with it. It would never ever happen, but interesting to think about..
Posted by LSU Wayne
Walker
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:51 am to
they should do a purge movie where a large societal element forms via social media and goes off and performs an off-cycle/non-government sponsored purge of hollywood and political types that preach and try to control the common man. That I could enjoy.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22389 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:57 am to
quote:

If you eliminate the poor the line of who is poor just moves up.


Well....no
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
36200 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:13 am to
The only good part was that dude that got the first kill. Should have had a bigger role.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28799 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:36 am to
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There are rules. You cannot kill certain officials or use heavy explosives. Anything you can steal will be yours, but there are no contracts established during the Purge. So no transfer of property/vehicles. If there is no crime, there can be no spoils from said crime. Money is just yours now. I'm pretty sure all cash, jewels, valuables are hidden away though..


the series this last fall on USA or TNT actually delved a bit more into that.

chick wanted to kill her boss, but she had to work during the purge. so she hired an assassin to do it for her, but the assassin wouldn't take the job till the start of the purge so that way there was no conspiracy for murder.

i'd argue anything before that was conspiracy anyways, but no money or names/locations changed hands till the start of the purge.


flash backwards to the first purge...

quote:

It is a fascinating social experiment. The tenants of it just can't be disputed. If you eliminate the lower levels of society, we will flourish


i think that it's an interesting topic, albeit not worthy of 4 movies and a tv series. i actually liked the second one the most out of these because it went beyond just the one family from the first one. third one kinda ended it because of the final outcome.

if you want to take a very nihilistic view of the world (I am a Christian and DO NOT subscribe to this, as it's entirely evil) deleting half of the lower class would do wonders. Especially the more violent half that wants to engage in that sort of behavior anyways. Menial workforce would be cut in half every year and create a lot less unemployment.

It's kinda a "thanos was right" argument.
This post was edited on 3/25/19 at 10:37 am
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:42 am to
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Also no laws bothers me. I mean no laws.

So I can go force people to sign over property to me and the next day it's still mine? Or does any crime revert back?
If I rob a bank during the purge do I get to keep the money the next day? Wouldn't I be breaking a law having the money even if I didn't break a law taking it?



Sex slavery
Human Trafficking
Child Rape
Food safety standards
Insider trading
Misrepresent earnings to stockholders
Tell a foreign power our Nuke Codes
Call a trans person by their birth pronoun (Canada only)

I said it at the time the 1st Purge movie came out: Do they think theft, murder, and assault are the only crimes that exist?

Can I sell people and/or organs?

Can I fill orders for computer parts with bags of potting soil?
This post was edited on 3/25/19 at 10:48 am
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9757 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:59 am to
All of those crimes taking time, planning and opportunity. The event only lasts 8 hours one night a year. Most companies are closed and most people are hiding. There are private mercenaries that protect resources that people really value. Most crime is ones of opportunity. The poor are going to go after the poor. They can gang together and try to attack a rich neighborhood. But those people are well armed and prepared. Just easier to loot and take from each other. It's what happens now, just to a much greater degree..
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 3/25/19 at 11:04 am to
quote:

All of those crimes taking time, planning and opportunity.
Planning can be done in advance

Commit the crimes during the window
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/25/19 at 12:40 pm to
Well...yeah.

Okay let's use a number.

Let's say. People who have less than 20,000 are poor. They ate wiped out. Now your poor are those with less than 25,0000 and so on.

Our poor in the US would be well off in many third world countries. We are a relatively wealthy nation.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66985 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 1:52 pm to
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If you eliminate the lower levels of society, we will flourish.


That's only true if the lower levels of society are literally being paid to do nothing but reproduce, as they are here and in other welfare states around the world. Where people have to work in order to eat, elimination of the lower levels of society actually results in the whole system collapsing due to a labor shortage. I guess when your lowest level isn't really performing much in the way of "labor", then they essentially become just a drain that can be justifiably purged according to this movie.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 2:06 pm to
I enjoyed the show but it's definitely become too preachy.
Posted by lsutigersFTW
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2008
7335 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 3:01 pm to
I watched this over the weekend and it was completely forgettable. I wish Skeketor wouldnt have died though. I’d watch like 10 more movies of dude just going around purging.

I think my favorite part of the movie wasn’t even meant to be funny. It was when the NFFA guy checks the monitors to see the action and one screen was a dude just having a beer with his friend.
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