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The Americans-Season 6 Finale

Posted on 1/6/22 at 11:17 am
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 11:17 am
I re-watched it last night on Prime and am still as amazed as the first time that I watched it. It has to be one of if not the best series finales in television history.

Such an emotional ride from start to finish. No other TV show has ever really had the perfect ending like The Americans. That garage scene with Stanley, the phone call to Henry, the train scene. Man, what a masterpiece.
This post was edited on 1/7/22 at 1:15 am
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 11:58 am to
preach
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 12:09 pm to
Agreed on the great finale.

My biggest question is whether Paige got arrested and/or kept working with the Russians?

I get why she wanted to stay but that was a pretty dangerous decision, did she go off grid? Try and live a normal life? Get arrested immediately?
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 12:17 pm to
She would have had to get help to get a new identity. Maybe from Stan. I think he would have been sympathetic to her since she was really entrapped into that life and had only been aware for a couple of years.
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 12:24 pm to
Maybe he would but I feel like him letting them go was his grand gesture of friendship, would he double down on it? Who knows I kind of think he would panic and track her down if he knew she was back in America. Or maybe since he’s now Henry’s de facto father he would help her
Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 1:51 pm to
I imagined that Paige used Stan letting them go to blackmail him into helping her disappear.
Posted by CaLSUTigerFan
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 3:28 pm to
Can you fix your title? I wasn't sure if you were talking about The Americans or some other show.

Great show but the finale wasn't the best ever. That distinction goes to Six Feet Under.
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Posted by WPBTiger
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 7:09 pm to


Posted by busbeepbeep
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 7:37 pm to
So good.

This thread gonna make me go on a full series rewatch.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 8:14 pm to
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Great show but the finale wasn't the best ever. That distinction goes to Six Feet Under.



I watched Six Feet Under in its original run. It was amazing. The finale was amazing.

The Americans finale is right up there with it for me. I audibly gasped when they see her on the train platform. And then when Phillip at that point, cover be damned, gets up and has to go be with Elizabeth because he knew she'd be devastated was really emotional.

That whole episode was fantastic.
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 8:19 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 11:51 am to
I just finished the series for the first time last night.

Question: what's your interpretation of Philip's final spiel to Stanley? Was he largely telling the truth (obviously still in service of their need to escape)? Or was he just being utterly diabolical - including twisting the knife with Renee just because he could?
Posted by FreddieMac
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 1:17 pm to
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My biggest question is whether Paige got arrested and/or kept working with the Russians?


I got that Paige really did not want to leave Henry and that she was an American in her heart. I do not think Stan would do anything to Paige because he liked Henry so much.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 1:38 pm to
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I got that Paige really did not want to leave Henry and that she was an American in her heart. I do not think Stan would do anything to Paige because he liked Henry so much.
Also, Stan doesn't really know how much Paige was actually involved, so probably not that hard for her just to obscure that history and portray herself as hapless teenager with limited choices.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

Question: what's your interpretation of Philip's final spiel to Stanley? Was he largely telling the truth (obviously still in service of their need to escape)? Or was he just being utterly diabolical - including twisting the knife with Renee just because he could?


He's doing it as a friend and not as a means to aid in the escape (it was clear Stan was letting them go).

Remember, he and Elizabeth had suspicions from the start about her and the one thing that tempered that was they were certain their superiors would have told them if there was another agent in the mix.

What happened in the last season was proof that would not have necessarily been the case.

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Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 1:52 pm to
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He's doing it as a friend and not as a means to aid in the escape
This was my visceral reaction to it, but several "ending explained" articles I've read have been of the opinion that it was all pure sham. The most supportive fact of that view is how they just straight up lied about any killing.

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Remember, he and Elizabeth had suspicions from the start about her and the one thing that tempered that was they were certain their superiors would have told them if there was another agent in the mix.
What's your opinion of Renee?
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

This was my visceral reaction to it, but several "ending explained" articles I've read have been of the opinion that it was all pure sham. The most supportive fact of that view is how they just straight up lied about any killing.


Lying about killing was necessary to get Stan to let them go (if for no other reason than Amador). As I said, they were already out the door by the time he mentioned Renee. Philip truly considered Stan his friend (certainly by the end of the series - the beginning was clearly a work) and he really gained nothing by fricking with him as a parting shot (he was entrusting Stan with his son).

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Remember, he and Elizabeth had suspicions from the start about her and the one thing that tempered that was they were certain their superiors would have told them if there was another agent in the mix.
What's your opinion of Renee?


The only reason I don't think she was with the Centre is because she stuck with him after he left counter-intel. Remember, he was pulled back in to CI by Aderholt to deal with the TASS defector (and more as the noose tightened). No way she would have known that outcome.

Of course, she was also working an angle to get a job with the Bureau through Stan, which runs against my theory.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 2:33 pm to
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udtiger
Here's another question: did you think it was out of phase at all that Elizabeth was so distraught on the train? At points of the series, I got the idea that maybe she actually just really didn't have much maternal love for either of the kids.

Also, although I loved the series, I think one larger criticism of mine was some seemingly pointless threads. e.g. the employee, Stavos(?) Why did they show that whole thing? Was it just to show that Philip was compassionate - or maybe he was still a communist at heart in a capitalist's role?

Also, similarly, I felt the Martha sub-plot was sort of randomly abandoned.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

Here's another question: did you think it was out of phase at all that Elizabeth was so distraught on the train? At points of the series, I got the idea that maybe she actually just really didn't have much maternal love for either of the kids.


Elizabeth changed over time. Elizabeth Season 1 saw the children as necessary for her cover. Certainly, she would have protected them if they were threatened, but the mission would have come first.

You have to remember a number of years have passed between Seasons 5 and 6 (Season 5 was 84/85, Season 6 was 1987). Elizabeth was flying solo (by choice and Philip had tapped out), but clearly her relationship with Paige had deepened and continued to do so during that final season.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 2:47 pm to
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You have to remember a number of years have passed between Seasons 5 and 6 (Season 5 was 84/85, Season 6 was 1987). Elizabeth was flying solo (by choice and Philip had tapped out), but clearly her relationship with Paige had deepened and continued to do so during that final season.
Perhaps. It seems like she never gave a shite about Henry at any point.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 2:52 pm to
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Perhaps. It seems like she never gave a shite about Henry at any point.


He was Philip's responsibility.
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