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Duzz
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Star Trek Discovery is back, the Burn, what caused it?
One day all the dilithium crystals everywhere blew up so it became a volatile travel method.

So, Warp Travel is still possible but at any given time in federation space your ship can go boom. But we do know that a bunch of powers around the federation don't use Dilithum, the Romulans for instance used a singularity drive (aka mini black hole).

So the question is, did the Federation end up absorbing everyone in the galaxy and made Dilithium the defacto resource to travel with. If thats the case, then the Spore Drive is ready for wide usage as at one point the entire Galaxy was connected under the Federation banner. So the Spore drive allowing people to travel anywhere would be the new safer method.

Then you have to wonder, what did cause the burn, was it because Burham and crew was traveling through time causing ripples or did the federation fricked up with an omega particle?

Interesting premise but, like it or hate it, what they do in STD will be official cannon lore going forward. Enterprise extended the lore to the 29th Century, well 31 and beyond.



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re: Star Trek Discovery is back, the Burn, what caused it?
Season 3 opener was fantastic, I really enjoyed it


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Athos
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re: Star Trek Discovery is back, the Burn, what caused it?
Spore drive is even dumber than this show that isn’t Trek.


PsychTiger
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re: Star Trek Discovery is back, the Burn, what caused it?
I’ve heard this show was bad, and what you typed doesn’t change that view.


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AURaptor
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re: Star Trek Discovery is back, the Burn, what caused it?
This isn’t Trek.

Not even close.

The Orville is a better Trek.


Duzz
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re: Star Trek Discovery is back, the Burn, what caused it?
Like it or not this is the new Trek. Kurtzman has it planned out to 2027 and CBS okayed and paid him for it.

So, a few more thing happen. The Federation fell apart like the Roman Empire. There is a Federation in name around but they only control 600 LY of space between them. Several of their founding members works have broken off.

The Andorians are working with the Orions to operate a giant courier network where couriers get paid in just enough of the remaining diltihum needed to make the trips


On the Burn happened around 100-120 years before present day of 3188, around 16-36 years after Daniels timeframe of 3052. Thats Star Trek Enterprise timeframe that they explored.


After the temporal war, they destroyed all time travel tech.



Quantum Slipstream (from voyager and also an Andromeda tech) is a thing, but very hard to use due to the materials needed to operate it.

Thats it so far.



CU_Tigers4life
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re: Star Trek Discovery is back, the Burn, what caused it?
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Like it or not this is the new Trek. Kurtzman has it planned out to 2027 and CBS okayed and paid him for it.


They can pay for him but most aren't paying CBS to watch that shit-show.

Star Trek created a multiverse when Worf fell through a hole where all realities converged. You and Kurtzman can enjoy your reality until someone takes over and retcon's this garbage.


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GoldenGuy
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re: Star Trek Discovery is back, the Burn, what caused it?
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Like it or not this is the new Trek.


frick you. You can’t tell me what I can or can’t like.


Duzz
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re: Star Trek Discovery is back, the Burn, what caused it?
That is why I gave the choice. But canonically this is lore relevant to the ST Universe.

Now do I like it? I can't say, the SJW and in your face gayness for the sake of gayness is jarring. The one single token alien Saru is the only one that seem to be intresting.

From a first officer perspective? Pretty cool.

The fact that they try to back date them before Kirk crew and suddenly have her be Spock sister? Extremely Mary Sue. For all of Voyager fault, it stood on its own with no help from any famous lore figure. DS9, had a leg up and tied in with TNG final sixth and seventh season.

Then there is the constant crying and emotional validation for supposedly tough military's people. Always with the endless tears.

HOwever, the VFX is cool, as is the action sequence. Its no longer brainy because Kurtzman doesn't understand the science but it's good. I mean that exterminatus scene from season 1 was great, seeing anti matter hits matter on a planet was beastly.

The inclusion of Pike was pretty good, the whole plotline for her mother I could have done without. It was boring. The introduction of the Wall-E bots make sense from a Star Trek pov for how they could get things repaired so fast when they their hull is extremely damaged. Wall-E bots come out to patch it up while living engineers inside fix things.

My main gripe all this time is the fact that it took place in the past. That it is now taking place in the future actually progress Star Trek Lore, for good or ill.

That the Federation Fall is the only way they could have an outdated ship be useful and on par with the locals. At the end of Voyager the state of the Milky Way was for all intent and purpose explored.

Seven astrometric labs with Borg tech exploration have mapped the entire galaxy. Both the Gamma and Delta quadrant is opened and the powers in both, Dominion and Borg has been taken down.

So the only thing left form here on out is the eventually unification of the entire Galaxy under the Federation as Daniels have all but guarantee in the 296th century.

What did Daniels said, they were done exploring the galaxy now they were exploring their own history. The Federation had to fall after that point or jump into other galaxies.

Kurtzman does not have the writing staff to write about andromeda or pegasus adventures.




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re: Star Trek Discovery is back, the Burn, what caused it?
Since y'all are such butt fricks about Discovery y'all need to go watch Lower Decks


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CU_Tigers4life
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re: Star Trek Discovery is back, the Burn, what caused it?
Although I am totally against STD and really anything created after the 2009 JJ Trek I am hopeful one day they will sort this out.


While I'm not going to spend another dime on CBS All Access I did find a very good and fair review of STD's 3rd Season Premier with a good breakdown and clips from the show with a few Easter Eggs for people that aren't paying to have a good look.

Here's a link to the 16:33 second review from "GameSpotUniverse"

STD: S3 EP 1 Review

From what I'm seeing there is still this incredible overdose of FX. Good Star Trek shows have always relied on character-driven episodes with only enough FX to advance the story...I will acknowledge they did appear to focus on characters better than I've seen in the past.

The writing is all over the place. The are stealing shite from just about every Sci-Fi movie and TV show made in the last 50 years. As was mentioned, they are fricking up the Federation's existence even though Daniels from ENT did everything he could to save the very same entity in about the same time that STD is now operating in.

The show seems obsessed with bringing back the ridiculous "Spore-Drive" by destroying all of the Dilithium. Spock learn to recrystallize Dilitium when he was saving the Wales in ST IV:The Voyage Home.

STD certainly likes the dark and edgy perspective of the future rather than the hopeful future that long time ST fans bought into a long time ago.

It's nice to know that one day "Q" can snap his fingers and make this all go away.
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Duzz
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re: Star Trek Discovery is back, the Burn, what caused it?
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It's nice to know that one day "Q" can snap his fingers and make this all go away.



Yes but it would never happened because of "Racist!" call from Hollywood. They gonna try to make this stick. I would be happier if they stick STD at the end of Kelvan Timeline


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re: Star Trek Discovery is back, the Burn, what caused it?
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Spore drive is even dumber than this show that isn’t Trek.

This series gets better every season. Post in threads where you have a clue as to the subject matter.


Fewer Kilometers
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re: Star Trek Discovery is back, the Burn, what caused it?
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This isn’t Trek.

Not even close.

The Orville is a better Trek.

Have an original thought.
Pull your head out of your arse and retire this tired meme.


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re: Star Trek Discovery is back, the Burn, what caused it?
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The fact that they try to back date them before Kirk crew and suddenly have her be Spock sister? Extremely Mary Sue.

That’s not an example of a “Mary Sue”.


CU_Tigers4life
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re: Star Trek Discovery is back, the Burn, what caused it?
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This series gets better every season. Post in threads where you have a clue as to the subject matter.


Share with us anti-STD's why you think this show is so good. As someone who doesn't like this show I'm interested in what people like you see in this show.


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re: Star Trek Discovery is back, the Burn, what caused it?
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Share with us anti-STD's why you think this show is so good. As someone who doesn't like this show I'm interested in what people like you see in this show.

The series shows growth and is willing to morph its theme and atmosphere to improve as it moves along.

Season One started off slow and depressing, but hit its stride with the mirror universe in its second half. The Harry Mudd episodes were particularly good.

Season Two was much better, with the inclusion of Pike and the Enterprise crew. The series touches the original series much better than the recent films have, with Mudd and Talos IV. The reboot films seem to take what they need without paying homage. Discovery has more of a sense of continuation from the original. The standalone episodes have a Next Gen feel to them.

Season three should make the disgruntled fans happy. They've thrown the series far into the future, away from the holy Star Trek TOS. It's all new territory as they try to rebuild Starfleet.

The Star Trek shorts are especially well done. Not sure why anyone would hate on those.


Bham4Tide
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re: Star Trek Discovery is back, the Burn, what caused it?
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STD


Different words, same meaning.

Unwatchable show - except to the same ole crowd here. Ya know, the ones who make threads about the greatness of Supergirl and Batwoman.


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technicalman
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re: Star Trek Discovery is back, the Burn, what caused it?
It's probably the Gay controlled Spore Drive that's the issue. Might explain why they moved away from it.


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anti-STD's


Uhhh, what?


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