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Speed is better than Die Hard

Posted on 6/20/20 at 2:19 pm
Posted by SHOtime Tiger
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 2:19 pm
Yeah. That’s right, I went there. Convince me I’m wrong.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 2:25 pm to
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37241 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 2:26 pm to
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Speed is better than Die Hard


This post was edited on 6/20/20 at 2:27 pm
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 2:28 pm to
Good Lord, if you are serious.
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22079 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 2:30 pm to
Boooo this man!
Boooo!
Posted by SHOtime Tiger
Member since Aug 2019
1361 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 2:36 pm to
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Good Lord, if you are serious


Better Villain: Hans Gruber

Better Female love interest: Sandra B

Better minor character sidekick: Jeff Daniels over the dad from Family Matters

Better action sequence: THEY ACTUALLY JUMPED A BUS OVER A HWY GAP



Posted by devils1854
Franklin
Member since Aug 2014
6348 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 2:37 pm to
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Convince me I’m wrong.


No. You will only know when you are lying on the bathroom floor after taking a spill in the shower. As you struggle to find that last breath, only then will you realize Die Hard is easily better and Karma is the reason you are dying 25+ years before you were supposed to.
This post was edited on 6/20/20 at 2:38 pm
Posted by SHOtime Tiger
Member since Aug 2019
1361 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 2:41 pm to
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No. You will only know when you are lying on the bathroom floor after taking a spill in the shower. As you struggle to find that last breath, only then will you realize Die Hard is easily better and Karma is the reason you are dying 25+ years before you were supposed to.


Speed was so good they didn’t needlessly kill it with 4 sequels. It was so successful that a sequel was mandated but they realized it was lighting in a bottle and gave up trying to duplicate it.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64950 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 2:45 pm to
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It was so successful that a sequel was mandated but they realized it was lighting in a bottle and gave up trying to duplicate it.


And that sequel happens to be one of the worst movies of all-time. I would argue of the four Die Hard sequels, only the last one is truly bad. Die Hard With a Vengeance is a good movie in its own right, Live Free or Die Hard ain't too shabby, and Die Hard 2: Die Harder is a passable sequel.

This post was edited on 6/20/20 at 2:47 pm
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by SHOtime Tiger
Member since Aug 2019
1361 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 2:58 pm to
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And that sequel happens to be one of the worst movies of all-time. I would argue of the four Die Hard sequels, only the last one is truly bad


First off I meant to only compare 1 v 1, but since we’ve sort of walked through this door, u can’t convince me that Speed 2 is worse than Die Hard 4.

Willem Dafoe vs Justin Long & Kevin Smith in a action movie?

ETA at least the effects in Speed 2 are still pretty much practical effects that don’t ruin the movie like Bruce Willis fighting jet planes on the highway.
This post was edited on 6/20/20 at 3:00 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37241 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 3:03 pm to
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Better minor character sidekick: Jeff Daniels over the dad from Family Matters


Eh, maybe.

But Die hard has the better overall cast easily.

Ellis and Thornburg. Argyle. Theo. Karl. Johnson and Johnson, no relation.

quote:

Better action sequence: THEY ACTUALLY JUMPED A BUS OVER A HWY GAP


Die Hard has three sequences better than that sequence.



Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39164 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 3:08 pm to
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Better minor character sidekick: Jeff Daniels over the dad from Family Matters

wrong

quote:

Better action sequence: THEY ACTUALLY JUMPED A BUS OVER A HWY GAP

blowing up the roof of Nakatomi Plaza>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>jumping a bus
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115415 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 3:09 pm to
Speed wouldn’t even exist without Die Hard.
Posted by SHOtime Tiger
Member since Aug 2019
1361 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 3:10 pm to
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Eh, maybe.



Listen I’m fine with disagreeing with the overall point but telling me the “I shot a kid with a toy gun and haven’t used my weapon since” is a lesser character than the partner played Jeff Bridges is a bridge to far for me.

FYI if the Bridges pun isn’t enough to get y’all to enjoy this thread I’ve got nothing else.
Posted by Cousin Key
Member since Dec 2017
982 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 3:11 pm to
Speed was one of my favorite movies growing up. I rewatched it for the first time in years during the quarantine. Not bad, but my God I forgot how awful Keanu Reeves’ acting was in that movie.

Die Hard is a better movie. It’s not even close in my mind.

Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35437 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 3:11 pm to


This is like 70% of the movie.

I think they actually filmed the movie with the camera Dennis Hopper installed.
Posted by SHOtime Tiger
Member since Aug 2019
1361 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 3:14 pm to
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quote:
Better minor character sidekick: Jeff Daniels over the dad from Family Matters

wrong



Come ONNNN..., we all gonna pretend Carl from Family Matters shooting Karl the terrorist to end the movie was a better plot point than losing a partner played by a star actor in the 2nd act?
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 3:20 pm to
Look at me! I'm making silly threads on the internets!!! I'm whacky!
Posted by SHOtime Tiger
Member since Aug 2019
1361 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 3:21 pm to
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Die Hard is a better movie. It’s not even close in my mind.


It’s got better nostalgia, and better one-liners.

As bad as Keanu might be let’s not pretend the guy who starred in Moonlighting is a academy award winner.

At the very least is anyone gonna tell me the ending scene with Mclaine limping in to confront Hans is not horribly overacted by Willis and only redeemed by Alan Rickman?
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