Snowpiercer season 2 *AND 3* discussion thread

Saw a commercial for this. What is this about?

It's been a little too long for me, I got about 5 min in tonite and realized I forgot some key details

I just brushed up on some recaps from YT and now skipping thru the last episode of last season to refresh my memory

Looking forward to season 2 premiere either later tonite or tomorrow

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We can make this the season discussion thread if y’all want.

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Im down for that

Just started watching S1 last week. I like it okay overall.

I’ll start watching once Sean Bean dies.

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I watched the movie it was OK, is the show better?
More drama/intrigue?

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It gives much more backstory and present political turmoil and strife amongst the sections.

Sorry for being vague, I hate spoilers.

Possible spoilers:

Due to the season 2 trailer after the episode ended. Melanie will leave the train with a sled of stuff. I think she is trying to find a command center or something like that. Some type of Scientific lab where they can monitor the earth in the snow and temperature. That’s why they kept showing the weather ballons.

Also Wilfred big frost giant is nuts

Spoiler free synopsis for those asking, it's a show similar to the movie (which is awesome). It's not overly great, but pretty damn entertaining though. And there is enough shite to keep/maintain your interest so far.

There's a train (1,000 cars long) with different classes of people. These are the only people left on earth, and the train travels the world (which is frozen) and they count the rotations. Murders, class struggle, etc. Without spoiling, just know that all kinds of shenanigans occur.

Season one was pretty solid, and I am looking forward to season two. I hope to watch the first one this evening.

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the tailie kid ....was nonexistent in this episode

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IMDB has him capped at last season's 8 episodes. The rest of the returning cast shows 15, 18, 20 episodes. I'm guessing he's off the show for some reason. You would think they recast the actor (if there was some offscreen issue) - they spent way too much time on that story arc to just make it vanish IMO.

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I don't remember why Mel went outside,

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SP had just been captured by Big Alice, & she jumped ontop the moving train(s) to try and disconnect the data feed/arm hacking module thingy. As she was Super Mario Bros hopping her way down train, Wilford slammed on the brakes and she went flying off.

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I don't remember what happened with them letting loose the six cars

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The elites figured out Mel was faking the whole Wilford thing, and arrested her for treason. With help, she escaped and plotted to help Layton with his revolution. They intentionally funnelled the elites that were trying to mutiny along with the stormtroopers into a section of the train, disconnected those specific 6 cars, sent them off on a spur track to die, then reconnected the train. You may remember part of that section had a bunch of Taillies locked in chains and Layton couldnt free them, so they were sacrificed with the rest.

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She also places a bomb on the....latching mechanism?

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Mel knew that Wilford could bring SP to a halt, detach and then hit the reverse button. She placed that bomb to ensure their fates are tied. She's supa-dupa smart, and always one step ahead apparently.

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although we don't see any of the elite passengers yet.

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remember: the trouble makers were in that 6 cars detachment and left for dead

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And all I could think of was "what an incredible waste of space." I'm sure that won't sit well with the people still in the tail who have to put their lives on the line to defend the train.

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I think this will be the catalyst for a huge anti-Layton story arc. That insufferable bitch that took over Hospitality after Mel is going to try and light that fire.

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Wilford has a plan to basically take over SP and threatens to anchor it whenever he doesn't get his way

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yep, but that bomb changed the game - now they're stuck together like Human Centipede

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Aren't there parts of the track where they have to be going a certain minimum speed to make it through different areas? Also, I assume SP has to be running to generate power?

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yes and yes - I think it's more about particular bridges, and certain turns with snow drift. I guess on straightaways its OK ??

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and Wilford has a giant dude who's unbothered by the extreme cold that can beat everyone's arse.

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Those 2 doctors are not right in the head. I guess this is SP version of GOT's zombie Mountain

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Mel's daughter) is super anti Mel, but then also not?

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I think shes just not a very good actress, and just makes her character confusing.

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I think shes just not a very good actress, and just makes her character confusing.

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Or she’s just confused about how black Thomas Jefferson took over Boromir’s train.

Responding to some of Stu’s points in the other thread. Wilford is clearly a psycho. That whole deal with Kevin was just weird as frick. I get him questioning what he learned, and what he told them. I even understand calling him on giving them too much information. If I stretch it I can even get onboard with making him kill himself if there was some previously agreed to terms of that being the consequence for betraying the train. But making him get naked in a tub in front of you, and then getting naked and jumping in with him, all so he can slit his wrist and die while you not only soak in his blood, but your dog drinks it too...I’m not onboard with all that. And it makes very little sense.

I hope Alex gave something to Melanie during the prisoner exchange, because otherwise that whole scene was just completely stupid. So Alex tries to give her the sample, only to change her mind and crush it when Melanie says “come with me”? Stupid. I hope they revisit that and show that she’s trying to earn points with Wilford.

Josie being alive is sort of bullshite too. I didn’t remember what happened after she and Melanie fought and she turned the whole room cold, but her wiki fan page said that her “corpse was fed into the train’s compost system.” So it’s complete bullshite to now make her still be not only alive, but awake. It also reminds me of how hilarious it is that it took Layton all of about four seconds to bang Zarah and knock her up, when he was romantically attached to Josie for years.

I’m interested to see where they go with the weather thing. I agree that some sort of colony in space is feasible. Or there will be something else out there that Melanie will find at the research station. And I imagine Wilford will try to make a play on her out there as well.

The whole “let’s have Alex assassinate Layton” seemed dumb too. It’s your first time in “public” and you want to swing for the fences and likely not even make it out of there alive? Ans having Alex do it seems even more stupid. If Alex can’t see that she’s nothing more than a pawn to W then she is more stupid than I originally thought.

The Ruth thing annoys me, but it’s an interesting angle to all of this. Especially in that she has always idolized W and then found out he was still alive. And now he’s on the train, so he is kinda like Jesus in a way (which they alluded to in the episode).

Anybody else feel like the dimensions of the train are hilarious? I’m not sure how far up and back things are, but like Ruth gets the message and then marches uptrain to her “office,” which I assume is pretty far uptrain. But did she walk through 900+ cars? Because that’s how they made it seem. At least when Layton and whatsherface moved around they threw in a mention of the subtrain for them to use.