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re: Seven
Posted on 6/17/11 at 9:31 am to spslayto
Posted on 6/17/11 at 9:31 am to spslayto
The only part I do not like about the movie, and it is more about the plot. Everyone that was killed was guilty of committing one of the seven deadly sins. Except for Mills' wife. She was completely innocent in the whole thing, yet Spacey's character killed her to complete his masterpiece.
With the attention to detail the killer kept and commitment he had to his masterpiece, why would he break one of his rules?
With the attention to detail the killer kept and commitment he had to his masterpiece, why would he break one of his rules?
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 9:33 am to DanglingFury
loved this movie, I saw it in middle school and it was a "cool" movie to have seen.
I actually own it and will pop it in when it's storming outside. Just a depressing movie
I actually own it and will pop it in when it's storming outside. Just a depressing movie
Posted on 6/17/11 at 9:55 am to bigbenlsu
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The only part I do not like about the movie, and it is more about the plot. Everyone that was killed was guilty of committing one of the seven deadly sins. Except for Mills' wife. She was completely innocent in the whole thing, yet Spacey's character killed her to complete his masterpiece.
With the attention to detail the killer kept and commitment he had to his masterpiece, why would he break one of his rules?
I always agreed with that as well. I get that he killed her out of envy of Pitt, but it still never made sense because she was completely innocent. Plus, she was pregnant as well, so some could argue that he killed a 7th victim, and he himself was the 8th (which would throw the whole "7 deadly sins" thing out the window).
Posted on 6/17/11 at 9:58 am to CocomoLSU
quote:which begs the question
Plus, she was pregnant as well
when does life begin?
Posted on 6/17/11 at 10:07 am to Pilot Tiger
Once I knew about the box, and based on the tone of the movie, I thought her baby was going to be cut out and put in the box. I was actually relieved (and sickly disappointed) that it was just her head.
Posted on 6/17/11 at 10:22 am to Ye_Olde_Tiger
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her baby was going to be cut out and put in the box
That would have been horrifying
Posted on 6/17/11 at 10:32 am to bigbenlsu
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With the attention to detail the killer kept and commitment he had to his masterpiece, why would he break one of his rules?
My guess would be because he had to do something so heinous that it would ensure Pitt would kill him, completing the final sin. What else could Spacey have done to a "guilty" party that would guarantee Pitt would be mad enough to kill him?
Posted on 6/17/11 at 11:51 am to WG_Dawg
Loved what Kevin Spacey did for this film. He generated a creepiness to the serial killer John Doe that is hard to achieve.
When I think of Spacey and some of the movies he shined in, I don't instantly think of Se7en, but after watching the movie again for the first time in a couple years, I remember how great he was as John Doe.
Just like the AMC trivia bars said during the movie last night... When he was cast for this role, Fincher said that he wasn't going to be remembered for it, but it was something that he would be immensely proud of looking back on it. I couldnt agree more.
When I think of Spacey and some of the movies he shined in, I don't instantly think of Se7en, but after watching the movie again for the first time in a couple years, I remember how great he was as John Doe.
Just like the AMC trivia bars said during the movie last night... When he was cast for this role, Fincher said that he wasn't going to be remembered for it, but it was something that he would be immensely proud of looking back on it. I couldnt agree more.
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Posted on 6/17/11 at 12:16 pm to LSU=Champions
Seven is an amazing movie but whoever wrote the script is seriously twisted. My favorite part is always when they get to the dude's apartment that was lying in bed and they think he's dead, then he wakes up after they shine a light on him and see that he's been in that bed for a year...who in the hell would think up something like this???
Posted on 6/17/11 at 12:23 pm to LSUDVM1999
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the script is seriously twisted. My favorite part is always when they get to the dude's apartment that was lying in bed and they think he's dead, then he wakes up after they shine a light on him and see that he's been in that bed for a year...who in the hell would think up something like this???
That's what really stuck with me, the murders were so disturbing and brutal. I still have a hard time watching/thinking about some of the deaths.
Posted on 6/17/11 at 12:25 pm to LSUDVM1999
Given that John C. McGinley (Dr. Cox) was the guy who shined the light on him, you would have figured he would have known he was alive!
This post was edited on 6/17/11 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 6/17/11 at 12:28 pm to DanglingFury
quote:he wouldnt be charged with 1st degree. I mean it was something like 30 seconds or so. He could prob get off on temporary insanity.
she thinks Mills goes to jail at the end. I say no way, what jury would convict a guy for that?
His life would still be seriously messed up though
Posted on 6/17/11 at 12:36 pm to Pilot Tiger
Being a police officer, and knowing the situation he was in, how much jail time would he be looking at IYO?
Posted on 6/17/11 at 12:43 pm to spslayto
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This was the part I figured out. What did you think was in the box?
So after the comments about his wife in the car, the long drive up by the delivery van, the creepy music, and the head-size box being pulled out by the delivery guy - then you guessed it? impressive.
Posted on 6/17/11 at 1:52 pm to Ye_Olde_Tiger
Yeah I'm glad someone else said it first because the first time I saw the film, I thought the baby was in the box too.
Also I always interpreted the murders differently. I just thought each one was attached to a sin in a certain way not really punishing the sinner (although that's what they all did up until that point ) So I wasn't hung up on the wife's murder I just thought her killing represented doe's envy and because of it, it would bring forth wrath.
Also I always interpreted the murders differently. I just thought each one was attached to a sin in a certain way not really punishing the sinner (although that's what they all did up until that point ) So I wasn't hung up on the wife's murder I just thought her killing represented doe's envy and because of it, it would bring forth wrath.
Posted on 6/17/11 at 1:59 pm to LSUDVM1999
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when they get to the dude's apartment that was lying in bed and they think he's dead, then he wakes up after they shine a light on him and see that he's been in that bed for a year...who in the hell would think up something like this???
Seeing that part in the theatre gave me a serious jolt!
Posted on 6/17/11 at 2:37 pm to TDTGodfather
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Also I always interpreted the murders differently. I just thought each one was attached to a sin in a certain way not really punishing the sinner
I agree. The way I looked at it was that the envy murder wasn't committed on Paltrow. Pitt killed Spacey for his envy. Pitt's life essentially ended because of his wrath.
This post was edited on 6/17/11 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 6/17/11 at 3:17 pm to spslayto
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Why would I lie about that? The ending of "Primal Fear" shocked me. But not the ending of Seven. Why would I need to lie about that?
didn't shock me either. still one of my favorite movies.
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