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Rhames
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re: Rian Johnson says Rey’s Parents Is Actually ‘Still Open’
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Yeah, but even when I first watched it I thought it could still be an open question. Slightly open, for a future writer to explore.



For sure. I'm not closing the door on it completely. They can change anything at anytime. Lucas did it all the way through the OT.


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RobbBobb
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re: Rian Johnson says Rey’s Parents Is Actually ‘Still Open’
Well, looks like Disney is already backtracking on TLJ storyline. First, that mudchecked Hamill, now they send Rian out to say, "Oh no, it aint what it appears to be"

Expect a confusing rewrite for IX. Because if Rey was truly as strong in the force that she is being depicted, she would have known whether Kylo Ren was lying to her or not. Remember Vader told Luke to search his heart, he knew it to be true
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Vader: Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father.
Luke: He told me enough! He told me you killed him!
Vader: No. I am your father.
Luke: No! That's not true! That's impossible!
Vader: Search your feelings. You know it to be true.

Same thing should apply to Rey



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Jcorye1
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re: Rian Johnson says Rey’s Parents Is Actually ‘Still Open’
Damage control


jeff5891
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re: Rian Johnson says Rey’s Parents Is Actually ‘Still Open’
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Maz told her she, rey herself, knew the people she was waiting for, her parents, weren't coming back


And that's not what you just argued. You wrote that what Maz and Kylo said to Rey were equivalent. That's incorrect.

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The whole mirror scene with rey was to tell her all that mattered was her. She was basically the person that raised herself. She isn't defined by where she came from, or who, but where she is going.


That's an expression of a theme that links back to what Maz said to her, not a fact about her parents.

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Kylo makes rey say the truth about her parents. Then lays it on thick after that.

He specifically says it first and she is pursuaded by it

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They can change it.

It hasn't been set
This post was edited on 12/31 at 7:21 pm


Rhames
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re: Rian Johnson says Rey’s Parents Is Actually ‘Still Open’
I was trying to convey that rey was told by both Kylo Ren and Maz that she, rey, really did know the truth about her parents.


And if i remember correctly kylo says he saw her parents and that she knows the truth. She has always known the truth. He then tells her to say it in which she says "they were nobody." That's when kylo makes his play and says they sold her for drinking money and are in a grave on Jakku.


As I said, they can change it but the direction they have taken is for her to be no one. Obviously they can change that but it will be pretty hard to make her a solo or a Skywalker with the timeline they have set up.

Rian Johnson has also said that kylo believes that is the truth when he tells her. Obviously JJ just pitched IX last week. Yeah they can change it but I don't think they are going to.


Reys origins have been in flux since 2012.


Here is the dialogue

Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017)

Kylo Ren: Do you know the truth about your parents? Or have you always known? You've just hidden it away. Say it.

Rey: [in tears] They were nobody.

Kylo Ren: They were filthy junk traders. Sold you off for drinking money. They're dead in a pauper's grave in the Jakku desert. You come from nothing. You're nothing. But not to me.



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Vood
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re: Rian Johnson says Rey’s Parents Is Actually ‘Still Open’
Unless they open Episode 9 with episode 8 being a bad dream them I wont be seeing it.

I am not holding out hope, so I am going to assume I won't see 9.





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re: Rian Johnson says Rey’s Parents Is Actually ‘Still Open’
Lol okay


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GeauxLSUGeaux
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re: Rian Johnson says Rey’s Parents Is Actually ‘Still Open’
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Unless they open Episode 9 with episode 8 being a bad dream them I wont be seeing it.


You’re not alone. The white knights will say you’re full of it, but there’s a sizable portion of fans who feel the same way. It wasn’t worse than AotC but I felt more dissatisfied with this movie than any of the other ones. Seems like most of the people who liked it forget that it wasn’t a stand alone Star Wars film, it was episode 8 of a 9 episode saga. That’s just the tip of a very big iceberg.


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Smoke7024
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re: Rian Johnson says Rey’s Parents Is Actually ‘Still Open’
Same. I have zero interest in the new characters going forward. I was hoping TLJ would give me a reason to care about Rey, but it didn’t. It didn’t do Poe or Finn any favors either.


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re: Rian Johnson says Rey’s Parents Is Actually ‘Still Open’
I assumed that Kylo Ren was lying about it, especially after he didn't actually turn.

The point still remains that the story didn't progress one bit in TLJ, and was one giant vehicle for the SJW agenda.


They took a 360 spin and ended up right where they started minus a few people, and the people they dropped off during the spin mattered very very little, so their dropping off didn't matter much.


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Breesus
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re: Rian Johnson says Rey’s Parents Is Actually ‘Still Open’
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Anything’s still open, and I’m not writing the next film. [J.J. Abrams and Chris Terrio] are doing it,” he said.


Maybe this is Disney doing sneak attack damage control via retcon heavy Episode IX


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Suntiger
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re: Rian Johnson says Rey’s Parents Is Actually ‘Still Open’
Unless everyone I know tells me Episode IX is the best thing ever I won’t see it in theaters. I won’t see Solo either. Kylo is a terrible villain. He’s a spoiled brat bested by a nobody (as far as the movie has told us) who has no training. The rebellion and the first order have no context in the world and is hard to root for one over the other at this point. I don’t really care about Rey. Her story feels like a Twilight teen angst saga. Boring! Poe and Fin? Don’t really care about them either. It was a slow OJ Simpsonesque car chase of a movie with no real plot.

Damn I hated it!


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re: Rian Johnson says Rey’s Parents Is Actually ‘Still Open’
The more this guy opens his mouth, the more TLJ turns into Godfather III.

I thought Phantom was the throwaway movie of the franchise...

But it's turning into TLJ - most forgetable, throw-away, pointless Star Wars movie ever made.

They will have to box it with the original trilogy and TFA to move it off the shelf.


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re: Rian Johnson says Rey’s Parents Is Actually ‘Still Open’
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frick Rian Johnson


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blueboy
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re: Rian Johnson says Rey’s Parents Is Actually ‘Still Open’
Who really gives a shite now?


Will Munny
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re: Rian Johnson says Rey’s Parents Is Actually ‘Still Open’
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Who really gives a shite now?


+1


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Volvagia
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re: Rian Johnson says Rey’s Parents Is Actually ‘Still Open’
Translation:

Today, the director/writer revealed that he just threw shite at the wall with no plan or conferencing with the intent of the director who started and finished the trilogy.

I mean seriously, did he deliberately throw out all plot threads started by JJ and go "Your move" to him?


JumpingTheShark
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re: Rian Johnson says Rey’s Parents Is Actually ‘Still Open’
What kind of a-hole spells their name Rian?


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Damone
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re: Rian Johnson says Rey’s Parents Is Actually ‘Still Open’
That guy blew the biggest opportunity of his career


SlowFlowPro
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re: Rian Johnson says Rey’s Parents Is Actually ‘Still Open’
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I mean seriously, did he deliberately throw out all plot threads started by JJ and go "Your move" to him?

that's literally what the comment sin OP sound like


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