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Ray Liota and chantix

Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:45 pm
Posted by tbabino
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:45 pm
Am I the only one who thinks he sounds mentally-slow in those ads? Or is he trying too hard to speak too deliberately?
Posted by hsfolk
Member since Sep 2009
18537 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:50 pm to
he should have stayed away from the plastic surgery
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38636 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:57 pm to
his face is so seized up he can barely talk
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27659 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 5:08 pm to
Watching him on those ads makes me want to never take Chantix
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35437 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 5:21 pm to
He says he was a lifelong smoker.

Quitting at age 64 ain't gonna help you man.

He should just continue smoking and frick Chantix and enjoy life.

I knew a woman who smoked a pack a day since age 14 until she died at age 96 still smoking till the end...and she died in her sleep not from any cancer.
Posted by hsfolk
Member since Sep 2009
18537 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 5:24 pm to
I'm sure glad I've never wanted to start smoking
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
26440 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 5:42 pm to
This again?
This post was edited on 12/18/18 at 5:43 pm
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 5:47 pm to
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

I knew a woman who smoked a pack a day since age 14 until she died at age 96 still smoking till the end...and she died in her sleep not from any cancer.


my grandmother smoked for 50 years. She did die from smoking (COPD) but she made it to 90.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47577 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

my grandmother smoked for 50 years. She did die from smoking (COPD) but she made it to 90.




At 90 it could be argued that 90 years of oxygen was more responsible for her death than 50 years of smoking,
Posted by Uncle Don
The Big House
Member since Jul 2018
4229 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 6:47 pm to
Ray looks like he needs to be an AIDS spokesman
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
10850 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 8:14 pm to
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Quitting at age 64 ain't gonna help you man.


There's tons of reasons to quit smoking at 64, there's a lot more to it than just cancer risk.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35437 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 8:21 pm to
Yeah heart disease, etc.

But heart disease is mostly genetic.

External forces or behaviors often have little impact on genes...or the code, ticking inside you.

If he's smoked for 40 years, whatever damage that is going to harm him is done. He isn't going to reverse that by not smoking.

Most damage done by smoking is the early years...15-30. Especially under age 18...if you start smoking under age 15-16, you are twice as likely to develop lung cancer than those who smoked just as long as you but started later.

If Ray has survived this long with being a lifelong smoker, he isn't reversing heart disease damage at this point when he probably has only about 10 years left anyways per average American lifespan.
This post was edited on 12/18/18 at 8:25 pm
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10678 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 10:19 pm to
What a grim outlook on life. You must be a depressed doctor.
Posted by EyeTwentyNole
Member since Mar 2015
4199 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 10:25 pm to
He does sound like he's had some kind of problem. There's plenty of people who smoke and have had plastic surgery that don't sound like Ozzy Osbourne
Posted by Jizzy08
Member since Aug 2008
11214 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 11:00 pm to
quote:

Yeah heart disease, etc.

But heart disease is mostly genetic.

External forces or behaviors often have little impact on genes...or the code, ticking inside you.

If he's smoked for 40 years, whatever damage that is going to harm him is done. He isn't going to reverse that by not smoking.

Most damage done by smoking is the early years...15-30. Especially under age 18...if you start smoking under age 15-16, you are twice as likely to develop lung cancer than those who smoked just as long as you but started later.

If Ray has survived this long with being a lifelong smoker, he isn't reversing heart disease damage at this point when he probably has only about 10 years left anyways per average American lifespan.


This is awful advice.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28178 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 11:04 pm to
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At 90 it could be argued that 90 years of oxygen was more responsible for her death than 50 years of smoking

Or maybe she was destined to live to 130 and smoking took her life 40 years early???

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Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 11:39 pm to
quote:

But heart disease is mostly genetic.





quote:

you are twice as likely to develop lung cancer than those who smoked just as long as you but started later.




Got any other hot takes?
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35437 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:25 am to
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Got any other hot takes?


Yeah, tell Ray to enjoy life and if he loved smoking (since he did it his entire life) do what he loves doing at his age.

And you should never take these non-smoking drugs. They are rife with suicidal side-effects...don't work and do more harm than good.

First rule of Medicine, do no harm.

"Curing himself" after years of abuse isn't reality.

Chantix?



Plenty of people have gotten cancer and plenty of people have lived long lives smoking...it's not black and white and Ray is 64...not 24. Whatever damage he's done is already done.

He should enjoy his life at this point. Smoking is stupid but if he liked it as a lifelong smoker than so be it.
This post was edited on 12/19/18 at 12:41 am
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71329 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:41 am to
He has enough botox in his face to wipe out a maternity ward.
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