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Snoopy04
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Peaky Blinders Season 4: Spoilers
Any of you baws watch this over the holiday? I didn't want to post spoilers in the other thread that didn't say if there was any. In that thread, people were really hating on Brody. I agree that his accent was pure garbage and forced harder than a constipated shite. Outside of that, I have no negatives for the season. Some other main thoughts I had....


Tommy: becomes more of a boss each episode and season. His brilliance on a moments notice, such as when Arthur was attacked at the boxing match, is pure genius. To be in the moment and use his brothers attempted murder as a strategic ploy proves how stone cold he can be.

Arthur/Linda: LOVE that Arthur came back to his old Arthur ways. His character is so important to be the "wild card". I was hating on Linda from last season and into this one, but damn. Way to turn it around and truly embrace being a part of the Shelby family, haha! Is it me, or did she get extra fine as the season went on.

John: SPOILER.....hate that he was killed off so early on. when he was introduced back in season 1 I knew he would be the one to face the chopping block first. His young ignorance made him so likable and comical. But lord am I glad we're done with his gypsy wife, Esme. she was the WORST!

Alfie: another character I am sad is gone. As brutal as that selfish character was, Tom Hardy played it so "fookin" well that you didn't care he was a backstabbing a-hole. That beach scene had some feels in it. I think the scene could have gone either way with him either pulling the gun on Tommy or not. Especially since the end result would have stayed the same regardless. Watching Alfie peacefully take a bullet may not have been such a bad scene.





DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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re: Peaky Blinders Season 4: Spoilers
I enjoyed Brody very much. Not getting the hate.

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I agree that his accent was pure garbage and forced harder than a constipated shite.


Believe it or not there are a lot of Italians in NY that have that exact accent, Brody was on point.


Snoopy04
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re: Peaky Blinders Season 4: Spoilers
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Believe it or not there are a lot of Italians in NY that have that exact accent, Brody was on point.

I agree that Italians' accent are similar, but to me he sounded like the Christian Bale batman. He kept forcing the raspy sound into his speech. I also enjoyed his character. yes, his accent took some of my attention away, but not enough to straight up hate him entirely.


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re: Peaky Blinders Season 4: Spoilers
I'm almost done with the season on episode 5 now.

Brody isn't as good of bad guy as previous seasons. However, so far the worst character this season might be paulie. She used to be fairly strong but I'm just not feeling her this season.

I do think the season is great though and I like that author is back to normal


Snoopy04
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so far the worst character this season might be paulie

Yeah, Polly was a bit of a drag this season. I'm hoping it was just a phase for her. I think the next season she will get back to "normal Polly". Hopefully.


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engvol
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I’ve been calling the final episode the best single episode of anything I’ve watched.


I’m sure it will get a lot of hate but it was incredible


tylerdurden24
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I enjoyed this season. Hate that Alfie will be gone for Season 5. The monologue he gave to Tommy in Season 3 about crossing the line is one of my favorite scenes I've ever watched in a TV series.


TigrrrDad
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re: Peaky Blinders Season 4: Spoilers
I blame Brody’s performance on the director. He pretty much did a straight up Marlon Brando impersonation, and since the director allowed it, I assume that’s what the director wanted. Brody played the part well, though I would have preferred a more original portrayal. Polly was indeed a drag this season. I would have been pissed if they really killed Arthur -I knew he wasn’t going to be dead.

I think the only flaw in this series is that they are relying too much on the “what really happened was...” method of storytelling. When Polly “sold out” Tommy, I just had a feeling that they’d end up going back to say “it was the plan all along,” because the series has just done that before. And having done it once this season, it made it too obvious they’d do the same thing with Arthur’s death. Still easily one of my all time favorite series.

ETA: I was kind of hoping next season would be about Tommy going after Alfie for being in on the whole deal with the corner guys. Too quick of an end, though they played it out well for being so brief.
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Jay Quest
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Spoiler warning has been given but I'll mention it again as not to ruin the season for anyone. Spoilers

Peaky Blinders is an outstanding show but there have always been huge plot holes that defy explanation.

Polly seemingly sets up Tommy to the Italians but doesn't tell Michael it is all a ruse thus leaving her son open for retaliation by Tommy. That simply made no sense. Tommy could have killed Michael for turning on him.

Tommy, knowing the trap has been set goes it alone and takes on a half dozen killers by himself rather than having an army waiting in the wings. Doesn't make sense.

Luca thinks he has Tommy by the balls and is about to force Tommy to sign over all his holdings. Luca doesn't know the Shelby's have cards they have yet to play. But for some unkown reason Tommy drops to his knees to deliver the fatal information to Luca. No way in hell Tommy leaves his feet when he knows every man standing behind Luca has switched sides.

Arthur had been my favorite Blinder for three seasons but I was ready for the goofy frick to get taken out by the end of season four.

And I agree, Brody's accent was too forced. Almost appeared as if he and Tom Hardy had a bet in place as to who could out do who.

Great show and looking forward to seeing Tommy in a position of national power.

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I fell asleep watching episode 3 and it was still playing when I suddenly woke up in the middle of season 4. The scene in the hospital.

I saw someone being shot in the head.
In my waking eyes, it looked like Arthur.

I turned it off immediately, not knowing what was going on.

I asked my roomate, who watches it with me and had finished the series, if I had really seen Arthur get shot in the head.
He assured me I hadn’t.


So I finished the series last night.

When I saw Arthur get strangled, I saw his face remain unchanged. I saw Arthur’s fingers underneath the garrote, but then he looked so dead.
And I said until they burned him I wouldn’t believe it.

Then they burned the caravan.
I was livid. They’d killed Arthur. The eldest. The one I identified with the most.
The one who tried so hard but still wasn’t the leader he needed to be. The one that had lost a little brother and needed vengeance so badly, but gave it up for the good of all.


I had resigned Arthur to his fate.
But when I saw him walk blurrily through those doors I knew it. My Peaky Blinder wasn’t dead.


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Polly seemingly sets up Tommy to the Italians but doesn't tell Michael it is all a ruse thus leaving her son open for retaliation by Tommy. That simply made no sense. Tommy could have killed Michael for turning on him.

You have to be more open minded. A show like this takes time to process. It could be several factors.

1) Pol went on her own to set it up in the same way Tommy did the Russian business. She either didn’t know for sure she was loyal to Tommy until the last minute or didn’t trust anyone to let her play this out.

2) Tommy either didn’t know or didn’t trust anyone to know, so he improvised a plan. Knowing they had sources in his camp, he couldn’t risk a big setup.

3) As far a Michael goes, I think you are forgetting a big part of this story. Michael betrayed Pol when he had his adopted mother come back, and then referred to Pol by name instead of Mum. Also, Pol is old school and she told Grace that she would never forget. Michael was tested by both Pol and Tommy. He failed. However, Tommy understands why. Yet, they did send him on family business to NY. He is being given a chance to prove himself. The kid in record time went from a nobody to saving Tommy. Tommy owes him for that. Plus look how much it took for Tommy to finally kill Alfie.


Snoopy04
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re: Peaky Blinders Season 4: Spoilers
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No way in hell Tommy leaves his feet when he knows every man standing behind Luca has switched sides

I took that as him playing the theatrics of the situation. Him dropping to his knees doesn't signify being weak in my opinion. Just playing out the plan he had made up.


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re: Peaky Blinders Season 4: Spoilers
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Believe it or not there are a lot of Italians in NY that have that exact accent, Brody was on point.




he sounds just like every other actor faking the accent. guess why they use it? because it's accurate.

I also don't get the outrage. we make fun of con air bc of those accents but damn i don't think ive seen so much hate over one as AB.

Curly is my favorite character, I wish they'd get him laid or something Curly dying would be on Hodor level for me.

Im willing to bet Esme comes back and starts trouble or asks for money or something, now that Tommy is a member of parliament.

I hope the next villain isn't something dumb like ole peter baelish getting mad his son dies throwing a fight for Tommy or something silly.

I likes the sparring between the two girls fighting over Tommy, they both kinda won in their own way.
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Gusoline
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re: Peaky Blinders Season 4: Spoilers
You have to be more open minded. A show like this takes time to process. It could be several factors.

1) Pol went on her own to set it up in the same way Tommy did the Russian business. She either didn’t know for sure she was loyal to Tommy until the last minute or didn’t trust anyone to let her play this out.

2) Tommy either didn’t know or didn’t trust anyone to know, so he improvised a plan. Knowing they had sources in his camp, he couldn’t risk a big setup.

Poly didn't really tell michael he assumed and she never confirmed. She also made the point to point out that men were terrible at keeping secrets. I think she didn't want him to know, so he would take the attempt on his life seriously.


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Jay Quest
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re: Peaky Blinders Season 4: Spoilers
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Pol went on her own to set it up in the same way Tommy did the Russian business. She either didn’t know for sure she was loyal to Tommy until the last minute or didn’t trust anyone to let her play this out.

Possible but when Pol and Tommy were recapping the plan they seemed, at least to me, indicate Tommy had been in on it from the outset. Actually there was no legit reason for Pol to inform Michael at all. It just seemed so contrived.

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Tommy either didn’t know

He knew. He was loaded for bear.

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or didn’t trust anyone to know

He's always used and trusted his inner circle and even brought in questionable outside help when needed. Going it alone didn't make sense.

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He is being given a chance to prove himself.

If that is indeed the case then it has to be assumed Tommy was always in the know on Pol's meeting with Luca. Pol, despite being shunned by Michael would never risk his well being unless she and Tommy had an agreement in place well before she told Michael.



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kciDAtaE
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re: Peaky Blinders Season 4: Spoilers
Disappointed in this season. Was too slow at times. Didn’t like they had just one story line with the vendetta. Previous seasons felt like many more things going on.

And the fact the Italians can come to the Shelby’s home and pick off his family/guys was disappointing. I thought the Peaky Blinders were stronger than that. Should have ran them out of town by episode 4 and concentrated on other story lines.

Best part was Alfie dialogue with Luca in E5


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Jay Quest
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re: Peaky Blinders Season 4: Spoilers
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I took that as him playing the theatrics of the situation. Him dropping to his knees doesn't signify being weak in my opinion. Just playing out the plan he had made up.

I thought the same thing since he was talking about big always beating small. But he could have remained standing and made the same point since Adrian Brody towers over Cillian Murphy.


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bengalbait
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re: Peaky Blinders Season 4: Spoilers
Maybe someone can answer this for me. I haven't gone back and rewatched last season yet but the Changrettas Mr. and Mrs. were English citizens, no? Alfred couldn't kill Mrs. Changretta because she taught them in grammar school. So they let her go and kill Mr. Changretta in Tommy's basement. So how do they suddenly have an American son, Luca that is exacting revenge for his executed father? What am I missing here?


tiger94gop
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I am rewatching, but how is it that a group of Italian-Americans, with only 16 guys cause so much issue, havoc, etc. I could see this as being a side issue to go along with the labor problem. I think it would have been better a real knock down drag out with the Communists, not just a walk-out. Brody was indeed a caricature, but a communist like his former BIL, infiltrating the group and playing more on Tommy's past I could believe. This whole season was just off. I love the show, but it did seem like far-fetched lazy writing this year.


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WITNESS23
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re: Peaky Blinders Season 4: Spoilers
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Believe it or not there are a lot of Italians in NY that have that exact accent, Brody was on point.



I agree with this.

I hated when he would sometimes go into the raspy godfather style voice.

Also the toothpick/match was over the top and unnecessary.

Other than that I enjoyed his role.


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