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Margin Call
Posted on 1/9/12 at 11:16 am
Posted on 1/9/12 at 11:16 am
Pretty decent movie and had never heard of it. Pretty good take on some of the stuff that has happened in the market recently, some of it went a little over my head, but I was watching at work so couldn't pay attention very closely. good acting with a pretty decent cast. anyone else seen this?
Posted on 1/9/12 at 11:18 am to Gnar Cat21
Margin Call Several years ago, unbeknownst to me at the time, I had lunch with one of the foremost investors of the 20th century. When one of my friends had seen with whom I had lunch, he rushed to ask me questions, specifically about money. "Did he tell you how to invest?" and so forth. "No, no he didn't. Money did not enter our conversation once." One might say that the conversation had been on spirituality. Specifically, we talked about what we can know about God and what can be learned about God through many religions. Money for this man, in my brief encounter with him, was not why he lived. At least not at that point in his life.
In an important conversation near the end of Margin Call, the cormorant owner of this investment group has these words to a disillusioned, surly stock pusher, a man who felt, in the words of Hugo, "the perpetual plaint of a soul in agony": "It's just money; it's made up. Pieces of paper with pictures on it so we don't have to kill each other just to get something to eat. It's not wrong." His words ring as truth, a thought uttered by many of the saints of the world: money is nothing. And those who devote their lives to it become nothing. That much is consistent with all the world's major religions. But his words also ring as platitudinous, for that man had clambered all his life for money and there was no regret or turning from this idol. This man and the man with whom I shared lunch were not of the same ilk.
Margin Call, like Wall Street II and Company Men, is placed in the troublesome days of early Autumn, 2008 when the world's economic bubble was ready to burst. Each of these movies has tried to capture the greed that led up to the financial collapse, but none has been as successful as Margin Call. Why? Precisely because in the other two movies, we are given characters that the hoi polloi, the occupant 99%, are supposed to hate. The motivation with their main characters is personal greed. Margin Call is not so simplistic, and so, much more believable. The film is at its finest when developing the complex characters involved in this fictitious histo-drama. We get to know seven characters very well, a feat in itself for a movie of this length. And for each, our initial impressions are not our final impressions. The movie, in that sense, is shocking. A man we believe to be a terrible villain in the opening scenes, we will come to pity at the end. Because at the end, we see that the Jewish vision of labor has triumphed over the Roman view, which has since been adopted by the West, sadly, and to the detriment of culture and charity. This character brings us there, the place where button pushing is replaced by heart-breaking, back-breaking work. The entire cast is formidable and impressive except Demi Moore. She gives an encore performance to Disclosure, which is equally as bad. She doesn't deserve to be in another film.
Is this a movie about money? Only in form. In substance, it is a movie about our own motivations in life. By examining the motivation of others, their raison d'être, reason for being, it gives each of us a good opportunity to re-examine what motivates us. And I hope we will be able to move past money, obviously, but even past building bridges and digging holes. Our reason is far greater than our work of this sort. Only when our work is solely a work of love has our reason become exalted and pleasing. 8/10
In an important conversation near the end of Margin Call, the cormorant owner of this investment group has these words to a disillusioned, surly stock pusher, a man who felt, in the words of Hugo, "the perpetual plaint of a soul in agony": "It's just money; it's made up. Pieces of paper with pictures on it so we don't have to kill each other just to get something to eat. It's not wrong." His words ring as truth, a thought uttered by many of the saints of the world: money is nothing. And those who devote their lives to it become nothing. That much is consistent with all the world's major religions. But his words also ring as platitudinous, for that man had clambered all his life for money and there was no regret or turning from this idol. This man and the man with whom I shared lunch were not of the same ilk.
Margin Call, like Wall Street II and Company Men, is placed in the troublesome days of early Autumn, 2008 when the world's economic bubble was ready to burst. Each of these movies has tried to capture the greed that led up to the financial collapse, but none has been as successful as Margin Call. Why? Precisely because in the other two movies, we are given characters that the hoi polloi, the occupant 99%, are supposed to hate. The motivation with their main characters is personal greed. Margin Call is not so simplistic, and so, much more believable. The film is at its finest when developing the complex characters involved in this fictitious histo-drama. We get to know seven characters very well, a feat in itself for a movie of this length. And for each, our initial impressions are not our final impressions. The movie, in that sense, is shocking. A man we believe to be a terrible villain in the opening scenes, we will come to pity at the end. Because at the end, we see that the Jewish vision of labor has triumphed over the Roman view, which has since been adopted by the West, sadly, and to the detriment of culture and charity. This character brings us there, the place where button pushing is replaced by heart-breaking, back-breaking work. The entire cast is formidable and impressive except Demi Moore. She gives an encore performance to Disclosure, which is equally as bad. She doesn't deserve to be in another film.
Is this a movie about money? Only in form. In substance, it is a movie about our own motivations in life. By examining the motivation of others, their raison d'être, reason for being, it gives each of us a good opportunity to re-examine what motivates us. And I hope we will be able to move past money, obviously, but even past building bridges and digging holes. Our reason is far greater than our work of this sort. Only when our work is solely a work of love has our reason become exalted and pleasing. 8/10
Posted on 1/9/12 at 11:19 am to TulaneLSU
I appreciate your review, but I hate them. they suck.
your reviews in general, that is. not just this one
your reviews in general, that is. not just this one
This post was edited on 1/9/12 at 11:20 am
Posted on 1/9/12 at 11:19 am to Gnar Cat21
quote:
I appreciate your review, but I hate them. they suck
Posted on 1/9/12 at 11:25 am to DMagic
This is the Arts Board. We review movies here. Take your one line "I like it. I didn't like it" reviews to the Movie Board.
Posted on 1/9/12 at 11:29 am to TulaneLSU
I really don't mind long reviews, it just seems like your reviews have more of an agenda behind them than actually reviewing movies. it's really not a big deal
Posted on 1/9/12 at 11:32 am to TulaneLSU
Why did you respond to me? I didn't review this movie, I just found his comment amusing.
Posted on 1/9/12 at 11:36 am to DMagic
Because you hurt my feelings.
Posted on 1/9/12 at 11:41 am to TulaneLSU
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Because you hurt my feelings
I'm sorry bro I didn't know you were so sensitive
Posted on 1/9/12 at 11:42 am to DMagic
i'm glad you guys could bond over this seriously. I'm glad I started the thread. if it can just help 1 person.....
Posted on 1/9/12 at 11:43 am to Gnar Cat21
quote:I like his reviews - though I'm typically left wondering whether he actually saw the movie he is supposedly reviewing, or whether his "review" is even about any movie at all.
I really don't mind long reviews, it just seems like your reviews have more of an agenda behind them than actually reviewing movies. it's really not a big deal
Posted on 1/9/12 at 11:47 am to Gnar Cat21
quote:
i'm glad you guys could bond over this seriously. I'm glad I started the thread. if it can just help 1 person
Posted on 1/9/12 at 11:50 am to TulaneLSU
I particularly liked this line:
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A man we believe to be a terrible villain in the opening scenes, we will come to pity at the end...This character brings us there [the triumph of the Jewish view of labor over the Roman one], the place where button pushing is replaced by heart-breaking, back-breaking work.
Posted on 1/9/12 at 11:53 am to TulaneLSU
actually this is my favorite film of 2011. not saying it's the best, just that's my personal favorite. loved watching kevin spacey just chew threw scenes. gotta give props to jeremy irons too. really great performances all around. really a shame this film isn't getting more attention.
Posted on 1/9/12 at 11:57 am to DMagic
It was a pretty flick man. Good acting, solid job of keeping tension and suspense. And I will agree with TulaneLSU when he says this is probably the most realistic movie on the economy bubble. So realistic, it can be a little difficult to keep up if you don't really pay attention.
I'll admit, I didn't read tulane's review of this movie until just now and it's not a bad review. Some unnecessary stuff but not bad
I'll admit, I didn't read tulane's review of this movie until just now and it's not a bad review. Some unnecessary stuff but not bad
Posted on 1/9/12 at 11:57 am to TulaneLSU
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This is the Arts Board. We review movies here. Take your one line "I like it. I didn't like it" reviews to the Movie Board.
Non-existent board boom!
(and jab at the lack of thought in some posts on the M/TV Board boom too)
Posted on 1/9/12 at 5:04 pm to Pectus
I just watched this, and it really is not that good. The acting was good, but there was no suspense. They did not fully involve the ramifications of what they did that day. They kept it too internal. There are a lot better movies about this than this one. Most notable being too big to fail.
Posted on 1/9/12 at 5:18 pm to reb13
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I just watched this, and it really is not that good. The acting was good, but there was no suspense. They did not fully involve the ramifications of what they did that day. They kept it too internal. There are a lot better movies about this than this one. Most notable being too big to fail.
Yeah, I think you're mostly right. First time I saw it...the stage play-like structure and acting convinced me it was one of the top 3 movies of the year.
On a second viewing, it's a completely flat movie. Most of the entertainment value is gone because very little happens except an exercise in acting and the film doesn't ask any real questions or probe deeper than the surface of their suits.
Posted on 1/9/12 at 5:35 pm to Zamoro10
It's a good movie but just not as good as you want it to be. I think the film's downfall is it's 24 hour time frame. You crave to see the aftermath of the economic holocaust the characters created but you never do.
Still worth seeing. 2.7 stars out of 4
Still worth seeing. 2.7 stars out of 4
Posted on 1/9/12 at 9:03 pm to Bayouadrink
i enjoyed it.. alot of stuff went over my head though, thats the only downfall
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