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re: Joe Russo answers your Endgame questions (SPOILERS)
Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:56 am to Fewer Kilometers
Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:56 am to Fewer Kilometers
i'm surprised there was no Gamora question. Unless the Reddit page didn't translate the whole article.
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:59 am to LSU6262
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MOUSE SAVED THE UNIVERSE.
You don’t get it? Here, let me help you...
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:00 am to 3nOut
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i'm surprised there was no Gamora question. Unless the Reddit page didn't translate the whole article.
What’s the question? She wasn’t brought back from the stone. She was brought back from the past pre-stone.
Come to think of it - that’s ALL they had to do as Thanos would never have been able to get the Soul Stone and it would have stayed in place.
I guess that would have been a short and boring movie though
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 7:02 am
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:05 am to theunknownknight
Technically iron man could be brought back if they picked him up pre-endgame?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:41 am to theunknownknight
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What’s the question? She wasn’t brought back from the stone. She was brought back from the past pre-stone. Come to think of it - that’s ALL they had to do as Thanos would never have been able to get the Soul Stone and it would have stayed in place. I guess that would have been a short and boring movie though
Wouldn't of worked in their universe. They weren't time traveling, they were universe hopping. They would of made a branch universe where Gamora disappeared, the main universe would of still been fricked. You can't change the past, you can just make new futures in other universes like Cap did, snap will always have happened in the main universe.
People who were saying bubble universes from the beginning knew what the frick they were talking about with the quantum theory discussions they had in the movie.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 8:43 am
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:43 am to Make It Rayne
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Technically iron man could be brought back if they picked him up pre-endgame?
Yes. The version of Tony that went back in time can still be accessed in the Quantum Realm. Since they've set the rules that you can't undo your present by changing the past, they could grab that Tony from the Quantum Realm, create a disastrous new alternate reality, and return Tony to their prime reality.
They could also return that Tony to the Quantum Ream and avoid that disastrous new parallel reality as they did by returning the stones to the past. Tony could return to the "present" with no adverse effects, but he'd have that dagger hanging over him, knowing that he had to return eventually to sacrifice himself.
Once you're a time traveler, you're never really dead. There is a version of you outside of time. That's why Barry Allen dying in Crisis on Infinite Earths had such a huge loophole. Barry spent his adult life traveling to the future and back, over and over. There were tons of versions of him outside of time that could appear at any moment after his "death".
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 8:50 am
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:59 am to Fewer Kilometers
Main universe Tony is dead, they would just be stealing other universe Tony’s. Main universe Gamora, Black Widow, Vision, and Loki are dead too. We just have unlimited alternate reality versions of them to steal.
Adam Warlock could come into play though and at least bring back Vision by recreating the stones or something.
Adam Warlock could come into play though and at least bring back Vision by recreating the stones or something.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 9:01 am
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:03 am to CarRamrod
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right but people are forgetting you need a portal. As you see Scott was stuck until the rat flipped the switch in the van.
I think they only needed the portal to return to their future timeline. The movie established this by showing Tony and Cap go back to the 70s when they were in 2012. So Cap could have lived his life to a time past Tony's funeral then use his time travel bracelet to go back in time to his original timeline.
Maybe
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:04 am to Dam Guide
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Main universe Tony is dead, they would just be stealing other universe Tony’s
It's like the stones, you can bring a Tony forward to your reality, but you have to return him to the same spot.
Take a Tony/Leave a Tony.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:06 am to theunknownknight
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Come to think of it - that’s ALL they had to do as Thanos would never have been able to get the Soul Stone and it would have stayed in place.
That would just stop that reality's Thanos. Their goal was to undo the snap in their reality.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:08 am to LittleJerrySeinfield
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Their goal was to undo the snap in their reality.
So that you didn't lose a generation of children who were born post-snap. (Tony and Pepper's kid.)
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:10 am to Fewer Kilometers
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It's like the stones, you can bring a Tony forward to your reality, but you have to return him to the same spot. Take a Tony/Leave a Tony.
They don't have to return the stones and they don't have to return Tony, just like Cap didn't return to his own reality til after he went a fricked with another reality for awhile.
They returned the stones because it created dark and decimated branches that the Ancient One warned Banner about, they apparently didn't mind creating random branches that weren't dark to their knowledge anyway.
The real idiot in all this is alternate universe Thanos, he could of chilled in his own reality and done the snap differently there where he erases everyone and won like he wanted since he knows it went successfully. There was no reason to go to the main universe.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 9:18 am
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:20 am to Fewer Kilometers
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So that you didn't lose a generation of children who were born post-snap. (Tony and Pepper's kid.)
Well, that brings up another point. If Banner knew that changing the past wouldn't change the future, that it would just create another timeline, wouldn't Tony? Nothing could change the fact that Morgan was born in the original timeline.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:23 am to Dam Guide
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They returned the stones because it created dark and decimated branches that the Ancient One warned Banner about
So what happens to the original timeline now with all the stones gone? That's my biggest question about the movie.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:25 am to LittleJerrySeinfield
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Well, that brings up another point. If Banner knew that changing the past wouldn't change the future, that it would just create another timeline, wouldn't Tony? Nothing could change the fact that Morgan was born in the original timeline.
Yes, but they could make her not exist with a snap to go back to the way it was before the snap. She would probably be dusted and could be snapped back into existence.
Time travel/Alternate universes are pretty much impossible to write into a story without all kinds of plot holes. I think the way they tried to keep it somewhat together is the whole Dr Strange they only had one way to do the plot without losing and this was the way.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 9:28 am
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:26 am to LittleJerrySeinfield
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So what happens to the original timeline now with all the stones gone? That's my biggest question about the movie.
Adam Warlock is my guess to recreate them. They teased him already and he could quite possibly get the storyline to bring them back.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:32 am to Make It Rayne
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So when Cap travels back in the end to return the stones, he doesn’t run into himself like he did when they did the time heist?
Cap is frozen when he goes back to the mid 1900s.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:48 am to Fewer Kilometers
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A: Yes, those people whom was lucky to survive the snap are 5 years older than the people who just got back. The reason Spider Man saw his friend again in high school at the end was simply because his friends was unfortunately also dusted like Spider Man was. Of course, there are people in his grade whom didn't die and they are probably already in colleges by now. To those dusted people, they had no conscious in these past 5 years. They didn't know what happened. It's as if they had just woke up from a long sleep. The only one who was aware about how many years has passed was Doctor Strange, because he has already seen that when he was time mediating on Titan. Parker's reunion with Ned was a touching moment. There are also people whom indeed moved on but suddenly was reunited with their lost ones. Yeah it's kind a complicated world now.
so looks like Thanos gave some people the gift of time
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:08 am to LSU6262
quote:Did Disney force him to say that?
the MOUSE SAVED THE UNIVERSE.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:25 am to Dam Guide
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Adam Warlock could come into play though and at least bring back Vision by recreating the stones or something.
Did I miss where the stones were destroyed?
Why would they need to be recreated?
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