re: “If you don’t like the casting, don’t watch the show” – Cleopatra

thank you for the warning. I will give it a wide berth

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They didn't see color back then. They enslaved people based on their shoe size.

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Nah, they just enslaved people that they conquered. There's a lot of roman material about Carthage and several different African tribes. They don't talk about the skin color in any of those that I've read.

It's not an odd statement, it's one that explains why the race of Cleopatra is in question. People didn't write about race, so ultimately we have no idea what they looked like, it's all speculative


ETA: The most famous example of Egyptians putting people into slavery is in the bible and it has everything to do with a religion. Slavery has been around since recorded history and only recently has it been thought of as something that affects only black people. Every single human alive has a slave somewhere in their background

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It's also almost certainly not true.

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The Exodus story is almost certainly not an accurate story, but there is little debate that Ptolemy 1 invaded Judea and took back thousands of slaves to Egypt

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On top of this being a Jada Pinkett production,

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This is all you have to say for me to decide not to watch it (unless for some reason the word of mouth is very favorable). I don't care about the skin color of the character / actor.

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I don't care about the skin color of the character / actor.

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Then you enjoyed being lied to, huh?


Cleopatra wasn't a character.

How do people not grasp this very basic idea?

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Almost feels like they're goading people at this point.

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This has been the 'in' thing for Hollyweird as of late. The writers for She-Hulk were giddy that actual fans OF She-Hulk were rightfully angry at how bad the show was, they beamed about predicting the backlash well before the series premiered.

Same for Rings of Prime, who talked out of both sides of their mouths, same with Obi-Wan and again with Velma.

They ALL purposefully trashed the series/ characters so they could then cry crocodile tears about racists and man-babies. And the weirdos admit it gets them aroused.

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It's not an odd statement, it's one that explains why the race of Cleopatra is in question. People didn't write about race, so ultimately we have no idea what they looked like, it's all speculative

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Except Cleopatra was famous and we have contemporary depictions of her. We don't know exactly how she looked, but we have a fairly decent idea.

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I didn’t see this thread staying on the front page for a week but it’s got legs.

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I thought the thread title said it all. If a creator has to pre-emptively blame the shittiness of their product on potential viewers, that's all I need to know to avoid their product.

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No one knows, because no one knows where her mother and maternal grandmother are from. And where someone was from at that time did not equate to a specific racial identity.

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Not according to Egypt you dumb bastard.

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This is not something anyone cared about or wrote about during her reign, so any arguments, like the one you're contributing, are stupid, modern speculation bullshite that don't really make sense for the world about which you're arguing.

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Ok so what’s your idiot defense to this bit of wokeness here? Or are you now going to pretend her race is also in debate?



If you could be honest—which I realize would be problematic for a prog—you’d simply acknowledge that leftist Hollywood producers don’t like white people. It’s really quite that simple and you wouldn’t need to contort yourself into idiotic justifications for race swapping.