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re: Hillbilly Elegy is one of the worst movies I've seen in a long, long time
Posted on 11/29/20 at 5:53 pm to MikeEhrmantraut
Posted on 11/29/20 at 5:53 pm to MikeEhrmantraut
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Did not read the book yet but watched interviews with Vance discussing it. Decided to watch the movie and found the story very compelling. Amy Adams and Glenn Close performances were solid.
I haven't read his book yet, but Vance is coming off in interviews like a total idiot. Someone posted a summary of an excerpt from his Carlson interview in another thread, so I looked up more. Comes off as defensive, reveals he doesn't know anything about movies or adaptations while giving opinions that suggests he does, and he doesn't seem to care (at least in what I saw) that the movie appparently defangs a lot of the meat of his book in favor of screaming.
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Posted on 11/29/20 at 6:52 pm to GetCocky11
Looks terrible. More like how Hollywood envisions dirt poor Southern hayseeds would talk, act and think.
Good book, great book I don't think it matters. It's what Hollywood does with the screenplay that determines if the 'story' is good or not.
Good book, great book I don't think it matters. It's what Hollywood does with the screenplay that determines if the 'story' is good or not.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 7:43 pm to AURaptor
Jesco White and his family haven't helped the way America sees poor Appalachians.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:39 pm to GetCocky11
I have to say this is the most ridiculous 25% RT rating I’ve ever seen. It’s a wonderful movie honestly. The critics are just pissed they mocked the elites at the beginning and say the film mocks the middle of the country. It does not. Living with a loved one who is a major, major addict and feeling as if it’s my responsibility to keep the family together and everyone else sane, this movie meant a lot to me. Sorry, maybe it’s like Lost in Translation where you can’t appreciate the movie unless you’ve lived it, but this was the best movie I’ve seen since Jojo Rabbit and bar none the best picture of the year. Bravo to everyone involved in this.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:44 pm to OMLandshark
it's got a pile on effect for sure. it was very meh but not the worst movie of the year, like i saw one review say
if you want to see the worst movie of 2020, watch The Swing of Things
if you want to see the worst movie of 2020, watch The Swing of Things
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:51 pm to OMLandshark
The movie was not as bad as I was expecting. I have not read the book.
There are some things that bother me about his story, but they may well be because of the Hollywood adaptation.
There are some things that bother me about his story, but they may well be because of the Hollywood adaptation.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:54 pm to Mo Jeaux
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The movie was not as bad as I was expecting. I have not read the book.
Yeah, granted I’m not familiar with the source material, but for what it was, I thought it was a great movie. It didn’t seem completely up it’s own arse.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:49 pm to OMLandshark
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The critics are just pissed they mocked the elites at the beginning and say the film mocks the middle of the country. It does not. Living with a loved one who is a major, major addict and feeling as if it’s my responsibility to keep the family tog
The first part of that is just dumb.the relatable part of that is that my personal experience with addicts looks nothing like the showy, screamy shite on screen. Most addicts work really hard to hide problems from loved ones. I understand the sentiment that these everyday fly-over state people matter, but everyday people don't look like actors begging for Oscars for "the most" acting.
Apologizing for what to me are clear inadequacies in writing, tone management, and performance, just seems like apologizing for a preferred political perspective. That's fine, if the overall sentiment speaks to you, but don't expect critics, or anyone else, to like deficiencies.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:56 pm to Jay Are
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Most addicts work really hard to hide problems from loved ones.
But there are those people who are related to people that are addicts that if they even slightly relapse that all fricking hell breaks loose and you think within the week there’s a 10% chance that person is dead. Trust me, there is this group of addicts that will burn the fricking house down and convince themselves they could get hundreds of thousands for the insurance money to continue their fricked up lifestyle if they get fricked up enough. It spoke to people like me who are the only thing between a family falling apart and absolute chaos. I enjoyed the movie because I’ve been in the main character’s situation.
This post was edited on 11/29/20 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:59 pm to OMLandshark
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Trust me, there is this group of addicts that will burn the fricking house down and convince themselves they could get hundreds of thousands for the insurance money to continue their fricked up lifestyle if they get fricked up enough.
Yeah, I don't mean to or want to discount your experience. I both agree with you and think Amy Adams absolutely does not believably convey this.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 8:03 pm to gameovergt
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Gonna watch. I grew up dirt poor northeast Alabama at foothills of the Appalachians Mountains (Sand Mountain) in the valley not far from Chattanooga & Lookout Mountain. My g'ma raised me, mom had me at 17. Joined & retired from Navy to get away. Gonna see alot of parallells, lol.
i rock climbed there a LOT in college. the rednecks would always come up the mountain with their 3 wheelers causing trouble to campers. easier to give them some beer than fight an entire klan
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Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:32 pm to GetCocky11
The book was great and really hit home with me. The movie is pretty confusing.
Posted on 12/1/20 at 7:59 am to oklahogjr
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The book was great
Hopefully it doesn't talk about how difficult it was for him to get a job out of Yale Law School.
Posted on 12/1/20 at 8:22 am to GetCocky11
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They throw in stupid "poor people" stereotypes
How much time have you spent in Eastern Kentucky? I can tell you about my grandfather's next door neighbor who believed that professional wrestling was real (small town farmers in rural Eastern Kentucky). You can't get more stereotypical than that.
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:57 am to Mo Jeaux
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Hopefully it doesn't talk about how difficult it was for him to get a job out of Yale Law School.
It talks more in detail what that's like, it's more natural and understandable how it's described in book vs "how will i ever solve the dilemma of waht fork to use even though i could just copy literally everyone else at the table". The book allowed JD to connect more thoughts together about those montages and so you understand more of the context around them and the story he was telling.
Posted on 12/1/20 at 12:08 pm to oklahogjr
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It talks more in detail what that's like, it's more natural and understandable how it's described in book vs "how will i ever solve the dilemma of waht fork to use even though i could just copy literally everyone else at the table". The book allowed JD to connect more thoughts together about those montages and so you understand more of the context around them and the story he was telling.
I'm sure it does. And I can understand that someone from his background would have adjustment difficulties in that environment. I just thought the movie was funny trying to portray that he would have difficulty actually getting a good job with a Yale law degree. Keeping one may be a different story.
Posted on 12/1/20 at 12:25 pm to GetCocky11
I loved it. I didn’t take it as a movie about poor people, but the depictions are pretty consistent with documentaries I’ve seen about Appalachia. I’ve never read the book, but my take was that it’s more about family and addiction.
Posted on 12/1/20 at 1:34 pm to Tiger in the Sticks
We just watched it last night. We loved it. I’ve seen the docs on the Appalachia’s and I think this movie embodies that hopelessness pretty well. I’m stunned that it’s so poorly reviewed. I though Glen Close nailed her role. She carried every scene she was in.
I didn’t really have a problem “keeping up” with the changes in time, but I can see how that disjointed-ness can affect the story telling process.
I loved it. My wife is from rural north Alabama and a lot of it felt personal to here also.
I didn’t really have a problem “keeping up” with the changes in time, but I can see how that disjointed-ness can affect the story telling process.
I loved it. My wife is from rural north Alabama and a lot of it felt personal to here also.
Posted on 12/1/20 at 3:28 pm to LuckyTiger
Finally watched this last night on Netflix and it was great. Amy Adams and Glenn Close just nailed their characters. Amy somehow made her character, as bad as she was at times, still someone you want to root for to be ok. And Glenn just captured the tough natured but caring grandmother perfectly.
This is a story about a family who’s had its struggles and having to fight to survive. I think it’s rare for Hollywood to tackle a subject like this, but this story is not uncommon, in fact I bet everyone I know around Denham Springs knows of families similar to this. Growing up with a father who owned a construction company, I saw his employees get their paychecks on Friday and be broke by Monday because of drugs/alcohol while their kids would go without, and at a very young age I knew that 90% of their kids would likely end up just like them. This is a story about the 10% who can battle their surroundings and fight to make a better life for themselves.
This is a story about a family who’s had its struggles and having to fight to survive. I think it’s rare for Hollywood to tackle a subject like this, but this story is not uncommon, in fact I bet everyone I know around Denham Springs knows of families similar to this. Growing up with a father who owned a construction company, I saw his employees get their paychecks on Friday and be broke by Monday because of drugs/alcohol while their kids would go without, and at a very young age I knew that 90% of their kids would likely end up just like them. This is a story about the 10% who can battle their surroundings and fight to make a better life for themselves.
Posted on 12/1/20 at 3:36 pm to Lsujacket66
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Finally watched this last night on Netflix and it was great. Amy Adams and Glenn Close just nailed their characters. Amy somehow made her character, as bad as she was at times, still someone you want to root for to be ok. And Glenn just captured the tough natured but caring grandmother perfectly.
This is a story about a family who’s had its struggles and having to fight to survive. I think it’s rare for Hollywood to tackle a subject like this, but this story is not uncommon, in fact I bet everyone I know around Denham Springs knows of families similar to this. Growing up with a father who owned a construction company, I saw his employees get their paychecks on Friday and be broke by Monday because of drugs/alcohol while their kids would go without, and at a very young age I knew that 90% of their kids would likely end up just like them. This is a story about the 10% who can battle their surroundings and fight to make a better life for themselves.
Also the fact like 20% of “experts” like this and 80% of normal people like it, just further reinforces key themes of the book, movie, and Trump supporters and their reality vs cosmopolitan East and west coast liberal elite’s reality.
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