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re: GoT S03E09 - "The Rains of Castamere" **NON BOOK READERS ONLY PLEASE**

Posted on 6/5/13 at 12:32 am to
Posted by Jet12
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 12:32 am to
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So is it safe to say Sansa is the whole reason why her entire family is dead.


Technically...I'd say Bran, because he kept climbing when he shouldn't have been and found Cersei and Jaime and you know the rest.
Posted by GCTiger11
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 12:36 am to
Now I understand why my mom told me to stay out of a big arse tree at my grandparents' house when I was younger.

It was to avoid us from all being murdered.
Posted by Ryne Sandberg
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 12:37 am to
Whhhhaaaa???? Rumors had been circulating in Westeros before that. I'd say that Tywin's lack of parenting skills did all of this.

Tyrion's birth did all of this? (Mom was killed)
Posted by Macintosh
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 12:42 am to
I can agree with Bran, but I feel like Sansa is the reason why Ned is dead and if Ned was alive, I feel like none of this would have happened.
Posted by emanresu
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 12:56 am to
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A Lannister always pays his debts

Jaime's debt to Brienne was to return the Stark girls to their mother

Their mother gets killed, in part by Lannisters

Debt is now impossible to repay.

Lannister paradox


The only solution is for Ser Jaime the Kingslayer to kill both girls so that they meet their mother in the afterlife. After all, he never agreed that they had to be alive to be reunited.
Posted by Ryne Sandberg
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 12:58 am to
Rewatched the episodes and the Direwolf's death stuck out to me. So I went back through all of the Wolvez.

Grey Wind (Robb): DEAD - killed by Frey's men shortly after Robb was killed
Nymeria (Arya): ALIVE - set free by Arya. Wandering Riverlands alone like her Arya
Summer (Bran): ALIVE - with Bran. Has been warged by Bran
Shaggydog (Rickon): ALIVE - with Rickon
Ghost (Jon): ALIVE? - im not sure where he is

Lastly, there's Lady (Sansa). This Direwolf's dead, yet Sansa is not. Was Lady's death foreshadowing of Sansa's eventual death? Was Lady's killing just showing the price of hanging around with the Lannisters?
Posted by Macintosh
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 12:58 am to
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The only solution is for Ser Jaime the Kingslayer to kill both girls so that they meet their mother in the afterlife. After all, he never agreed that they had to be alive to be reunited.

They can take Sansa.
Posted by Jet12
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 12:59 am to
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Whhhhaaaa???? Rumors had been circulating in Westeros before that. I'd say that Tywin's lack of parenting skills did all of this.

Tyrion's birth did all of this? (Mom was killed)

I mean, you can keep tracing stuff back forever. But just from what we've seen in the series, Bran getting pushed was a big catalyst for the beginning of the drama.
Posted by The_Joker
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 1:05 am to
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I mean, you can keep tracing stuff back forever. But just from what we've seen in the series, Bran getting pushed was a big catalyst for the beginning of the drama.



Lysa Arryn sent that letter to Catelyn before Bran fell right? The letter that said the Lannisters killed Jon? I feel like Ned would have snooped around to find out why Jon died regardless of whether Bran fell out or not. And he probably would have found out and confronted Cersei about it. Especially if Robert had still been mortally wounded on the hunt while Joffrey was heir.
This post was edited on 6/5/13 at 1:06 am
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 7:08 am to
I always think about how different this series would be if ned would have told robert/robert not gotten killed before he could tell him
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 7:29 am to
For the Alabama = Lannisters crowd, they do have a midget on staff. :mindblown:
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 7:31 am to
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For the Alabama = Lannisters crowd, they do have a midget on staff. :mindblown:


and it only took you 29 episodes to think of it
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 7:46 am to
Posted by ssgtiger
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 7:57 am to
I say its Ned's fault. If he would not have laid out his whole plan to Sersi, she would not have know what was coming.
Posted by etm512
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:12 am to
Someone might have touched on this earlier so if so I apologize:

End of season 1 - dragons
End of season 2 - white walkers
End of season 3 - WHITE WALKER DRAGONS???????????

Posted by Billy Mays
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:51 am to
Mick is a legend
Posted by etm512
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:54 am to
I really miss that goofy bastard in the BPL
Posted by Billy Mays
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 9:01 am to
100% concur, he was epic in post-match interviews as well.

... and 150% concur on WW Dragons - the only creatures/characters worth puling for on GOT are the ones that can bring a certain level of chaos to the realm
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 9:04 am to
I really have no clue where this is finale is going
Posted by Billy Mays
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 9:11 am to
Me neither - the last episode was such an emotional drain tho, so I suppose there will be something redeeming in the finale.
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