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Game of Thrones S7E2: "Stormborn", HODORS ONLY (No Book Readers)
Posted on 7/21/17 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 7/21/17 at 8:33 pm
Daenerys receives an unexpected visitor; Jon faces a revolt; Tyrion plans the conquest of Westeros.
Who visits the Khaleesi?
Who revolts against Jon? Is it Castle Black again? Maybe he eats some bad Braavosi food, and his stomach revolts?
Will we see a more disgusting montage than Sam's?
Boobs? Will. We. See. Boobs?
Who visits the Khaleesi?
Who revolts against Jon? Is it Castle Black again? Maybe he eats some bad Braavosi food, and his stomach revolts?
Will we see a more disgusting montage than Sam's?
Boobs? Will. We. See. Boobs?
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 8:55 pm to LuckySo-n-So
I hope this episode is better than the last one. Outside of Arya smoking the Freys it was
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:08 pm to theunknownknight
Hodors gonna Hodor.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:21 pm to LuckySo-n-So
quote:
Who visits the Khaleesi?
My guess is that it will be the fire priestess, Melisandre.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:03 pm to LuckySo-n-So
Nothing about the Lanister faction in there. Also, it doesn't sound like Euron is going to be taking Tyrion as a gift for Cersei as many suggested. At least not this episode.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 7/22/17 at 6:28 am to LuckySo-n-So
I think most of those answers are known now... we know who the visitor is, and it isn't that unexpected.
Somebody has shown what apparently is Euron's "gift", and that has been speculated.
Regarding boobs- that's getting less likely, as the remaining female stars are becoming more big-name actresses. Show's getting tamer now.
Regarding the revolt against Jon- I think it has to do with politics. Jon really has no concern for the throne, just the Wall.
Cersei and Jaime have no true issue with the North, as long as they don't contest the Throne.
With Joffrey dead (and now Tommen, too), there's a possibility that a peace will be offered to the North, an end to the war- since they face the impending invasion from Dany. Jaime basically said they're facing too many threats, and Cersei is far more clever and subtle than either of her dead sons.
My guess is that some in the North will want peace with the Lannisters, some will want to side with Dany- and whichever way Jon leans, he will face opposition.
Somebody has shown what apparently is Euron's "gift", and that has been speculated.
Regarding boobs- that's getting less likely, as the remaining female stars are becoming more big-name actresses. Show's getting tamer now.
Regarding the revolt against Jon- I think it has to do with politics. Jon really has no concern for the throne, just the Wall.
Cersei and Jaime have no true issue with the North, as long as they don't contest the Throne.
With Joffrey dead (and now Tommen, too), there's a possibility that a peace will be offered to the North, an end to the war- since they face the impending invasion from Dany. Jaime basically said they're facing too many threats, and Cersei is far more clever and subtle than either of her dead sons.
My guess is that some in the North will want peace with the Lannisters, some will want to side with Dany- and whichever way Jon leans, he will face opposition.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 4:22 pm to LuckySo-n-So
quote:
Who visits the Khaleesi?
Euron maybe? The consensus seems to be that the "gift" he promised Cersei will either be Tyrion or a dragon.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 5:52 pm to Stonehog
quote:
The consensus seems to be that the "gift" he promised Cersei will either be Tyrion or a dragon.
I dont believe it is Tyrion. He would have to take Dragonstone to get Tyrion and he doesnt have the army for that. My guess is the sand snakes for killing Marcella.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 5:54 pm to Scoob
Cersai has a major issue with Sansa. She becomes unhinged over her.
Hell, she'd probably borrow from iron Bank to hire a faceless man to kill her.
Hell, she'd probably borrow from iron Bank to hire a faceless man to kill her.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:35 pm to prplhze2000
quote:I'm not saying Cersei doesn't hate the Starks, or should be trusted.
Cersai has a major issue with Sansa. She becomes unhinged over her.
What I'm saying is that the Lannisters, Starks and Baratheons joined up to depose the last Targaryan king, and now that dead king's heir is coming back to Westeros at the head of a big army of barbarians and mercenaries, with dragons and an Ironborn fleet. With an adviser named as Hand, that was sentenced to die (and lost trial by combat) for killing one of the recent child kings. With Varys as another adviser.
The Lannisters may pitch a "join together now, or burn separately later" message, and publicly state that enough blood has been spilled between the Throne and the North, that most parties involved are now dead, time to turn the page and prepare for winter.
Jon would welcome having support of the Wall, by any big party.
Littlefinger will oppose Varys by default.
Davos has expressed distrust of Targaryans, and if Melisandre joins Dany, that will worsen his stance, as he really wants to kill her.
Brienne may state that Jaime is honorable and can be trusted to a point.
Sansa may well feel that she can now contend with Cersei, as long as they stay away from each other... she does seem to think she understands her.
I don't think it will be unanimous to fall in line behind Dany; she kind of represents a nuclear level threat to the whole realm. Tyrion will have to convince her not to go after every house, and will have to convince the various houses (Starks amongst them) that Dany doesn't intend to wage a war of vengeance against them.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:38 pm to Scoob
Well Dany has a larger army, a shite ton of dragon glass, and three big arse dragons. Sansa already hates Cersei and I'm sure Jon isn't a fan considering she threatened him in the last episode.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:42 pm to LuckySo-n-So
Well....I think the answer to how the White Walkers are going to get through the wall has been answered by the opening credits:
Season 6, Episode 1:
Season 7, Episode 1:
Look at the eastern side of the Wall where the sea is. It looks like the water is starting to freeze over. All the White Walkers have to do is walk around the Wall, across the ice.
Season 6, Episode 1:
Season 7, Episode 1:
Look at the eastern side of the Wall where the sea is. It looks like the water is starting to freeze over. All the White Walkers have to do is walk around the Wall, across the ice.
This post was edited on 7/22/17 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:53 pm to RollTide1987
Which explains why they've been waiting for the longer winter
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:09 pm to dawgfan24348
quote:Dany's sitting on the dragon glass, Jon needs it. Perhaps one way or the other. So that may be a point for, or against her, depending on her offers.
Well Dany has a larger army, a shite ton of dragon glass, and three big arse dragons.
Her army and dragons- potentially a great asset vs the Night King, or a huge threat that he can't hope to withstand alone. If the North thinks they're in her crosshairs too, they may feel that joining with the Lannisters might be their only chance of survival.
Sansa certainly hates and fears Cersei, but she also knows her. She doesn't know Dany. So that gets a little more complicated than it initially seems, depending on the proclamations Dany and the Crown both make.
Sansa hates Littlefinger too, but is not above using him, and she knows she has him relatively contained... Littlefinger is her ace in the hole vs Cersei. She has no leverage against Dany, and that might scare her.
quote:Bend the knee or face the consequences...
I'm sure Jon isn't a fan considering she threatened him in the last episode.
that's technically not a threat, that is a monarch demanding loyalty. It actually appears to recognize Jon, and gives him the chance to swear fealty, instead of stating "surrender your lands to the surviving Boltons and Freys ASAP, and turn yourself in, or we are coming for you". The Lannisters marched in support of the Freys, they haven't yet come for Jon.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:32 pm to RollTide1987
quote:
Look at the eastern side of the Wall where the sea is. It looks like the water is starting to freeze over. All the White Walkers have to do is walk around the Wall, across the ice.
That's also pretty much what the Hound said too when he looked into the flames.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 10:18 pm to Scoob
The problem is no one trusts Cersai
Posted on 7/22/17 at 10:26 pm to Scoob
The Lanisters are the sole reason Jon and Sansa have lost virtually everyone. Jon doesn't give a shite about anything unless it's how to defeat the White Walkers. And right now it's the woman of the family who destroyed your family or the unknown girl who has everything you need.
The only way Jon would even consider going to Cersei is if Dany tell them to piss off which Mel and Tyrion will not let happen.
The only way Jon would even consider going to Cersei is if Dany tell them to piss off which Mel and Tyrion will not let happen.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 8:30 pm to dawgfan24348
Bump. Come on Hodors...
Posted on 7/23/17 at 8:35 pm to LuckySo-n-So
So far, I think this is one of the best episodes of the series.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 8:37 pm to TigerLunatik
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