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re: Dark Phoenix Bombs. Is this a Partial GOT retaliation?

Posted on 6/9/19 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58035 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 1:11 pm to
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Is this a Partial GOT retaliation?


Seek help.
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
22082 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 3:20 pm to
Time to move on from that Universe.

It should have ended - and it would have perfectly - with Logan.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42104 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:23 am to
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when I look at that big movie poster all I see is Sansa Stark

I see this:

Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79954 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:48 am to
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Deadpool 3/X-Force says hi.


Was cancelled last year.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:55 am to
They went way down hill with Apocalypse.

With the leaks from the filming, the only good stuff has been shown in trailers. The rest is Evan Peters trying to salvage something while McAvoy and Fassbender wonder what the frick happened and move on to another movie.

ETA: the real answer is Simon Kinburg though.
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 9:59 am
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:46 am to
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the story, which was the best in the history of the x-men comics and lines up perfectly with an audience that clearly loves space oddysey comic movies now, and the studio absolutely butchered it, juts like they did every single other x-men movie.


Dark Phoenix is an amazing story if

1. You care about Jean and Scott
2. You like cosmic storylines

That shite should be so easy to do, but they've been unable to get audiences to care about Jean or Scott in, now, 2 different attempts spanning 6 or 7 movies.

Has no one at Fox read a single X-Men comic? Do none of them know how important Cyclops is to the world? Can any of them even describe his character, like how his personality stands out against Xavier, Magneto, etc?
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158721 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:49 am to
Tough to get people to care about Jean and Scott when you just introduced them as basically side characters in a movie that wasn’t very well liked. I just don’t get what the frick they were thinking on this one really.
Posted by schatman
Montana
Member since Nov 2018
2599 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:57 am to
Jean and Scott?!? Pshaw. Don't you know that X-Men is- and has always been about- Mystique?

Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
5871 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:00 am to
Saw it last night and it was very forgettable. I did enjoy some of the fighting scenes in the 3rd act, but other than that...meh/5
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
7571 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:03 am to
X-men didn't reboot well on the second pass.

Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:16 am to
I'd love a Mystique and Rogue movie dealing with how fricked they are. And if we're being honest that's one of the better ways to get mutants into the movies and Captain Marvel brought in line power wise.

Go from there to the Brood storylines and they got a phase.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:20 am to
James Marsden put on a curse on Cyclops, he jumped from a sinking boat in X3 to a sunk boat to be cucked by Superman.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56238 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:32 am to
For me, it was because she married a Jonas brother.

Honestly, though, I don't know how a super hero movie bombs this badly. I guess the delay and word of mouth killed it.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79954 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:35 am to
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Honestly, though, I don't know how a super hero movie bombs this badly. I guess the delay and word of mouth killed it.


This movie was DOA the second the Disney acquisition of Fox was announced.

When Feige announced that the ONLY Fox/Marvel property that was immune from any changes/amendments by Marvel Studios was Deadpool, rigor mortis stopped.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
7493 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:39 am to
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For me, it was because she married a Jonas brother.

Honestly, though, I don't know how a super hero movie bombs this badly. I guess the delay and word of mouth killed it.


I'm taking a beating for my OP, but if superhero movies are for kids and it's summer vacation, I would think there would be a heck of a lot more people watching this movie unless more adults watch this stuff and they are staying away for a reason. Bad reviews, pissed off fans for whatever reason can affect a movie. It doesn't have to make sense because we live in a time where everyone is waking up each day looking for a reason to get triggered over something and movies, TV and politics are your best targets.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20304 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:40 pm to
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Despite the unfavorable reviews, we were going to see X-Men Dark Phoenix, but when I look at that big movie poster all I see is Sansa Stark and my wife and I are still pissed at the out come of GOT
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Are pissed off GOT fans taking things out on this movie?
Um, what?

I was not satisfied by the ending of Game of Thrones, either. But my dissatisfaction was not the result of Sansa's role. Sansa wasn't my favorite character, but she also wasn't a big drawback either. I didn't think the actress did a terrible job, or a great one either (she certainly didn't ruin scenes she was in).

If some generic film comes out with one of the actors (say, Bran, Joffrey, Ramsay, etc), I think it gets a boost... (oh, I know that guy).

I'm certainly not boycotting a superhero film because of a fantasy TV show.
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The Solo movie paid the price from TLJ even though it was a decent film.
The Solo film was:
A) in that same film universe, from the same production company;
so people were using their wallets to express frustration with the last film (and hopefully force a change in direction going forward).

B) unnecessarily fleshed out a major character's past. That debunked a lot of legend, and reduced the overall prestige of said character;
so poor reviews came from those disappointed in the minimizing of the character (and by extension the OT).

I guess I just fail to see any connection here. Godzilla KOTM didn't suffer because Charles Dance (Tywin Lannister) was in it; if anything it got a boost.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39149 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:46 pm to
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Has no one at Fox read a single X-Men comic? Do none of them know how important Cyclops is to the world? Can any of them even describe his character, like how his personality stands out against Xavier, Magneto, etc?

Early rumors on Marvel's plans for X-Men say they want Xavier, Wolverine, and Cyclops as the main members and they're pretty much open to anything after that. Supposedly Marvel wants to correct the way Cyclops was handled at Fox. They made some edits and reshoots for Dark Phoenix which worked out well.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
7493 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:50 pm to
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I guess I just fail to see any connection here. Godzilla KOTM didn't suffer because Charles Dance (Tywin Lannister) was in it; if anything it got a boost.


Well, Tywin was long since dead when GOT was firing on all cylinders and his character had nothing to do with the last several seasons. Tywin was awesome too! Loved his character and he was a true a-hole until the end.
Posted by tiger_nurse
Member since Aug 2012
501 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:20 am to
I saw it sunday night and enjoyed it. I honestly don't see what all the negativity is about. Its just like every other superhero movie. The train fight scene was badass!

I don't critique superhero movies that much and just enjoy them for what they are. With that said, marvel really f'd up ironman 3 with the mandarin being a fraud thing. Really pissed me off with that one.
Posted by Matisyeezy
End of the bar, Drunk
Member since Feb 2012
16624 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 8:11 am to
I mean. Sansa didn’t write that dumb shite ending.
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