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Cyborg actor Ray Fisher was for the Justice League re-shoots until he was against them
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Cyborg actor Ray Fisher was onstage alongside his fellow Justice League cast members at San Diego Comic-Con 2017 to promote Joss Whedon's reshot, reedited version of the DC movie that Zack Snyder had originally been hired to make. Fisher said at the time, "Joss is a great guy and Zack picked a good person to come in and clean up, finish up for him."

That was then.

On Monday, Fisher tweeted a video of him saying those very words at SDCC 2017 with this caption: "I’d like to take a moment to forcefully retract every bit of this statement."

Fisher, a theater actor who made his big-screen debut in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice before segueing to Justice League, did not provide any further context for retracting his past praise of Whedon. It's unclear whether Fisher's slam is a personal beef with Whedon or simply about not liking the theatrical version of Justice League that Whedon shepherded, which was mandated to lighten up the darker tone of Snyder's version of the film.

It's also worth noting Jason Momoa's stone-faced expression and seemingly half-hearted nod reacting to Fisher's praise.

Fisher has long been a supporter of #ReleaseTheSnyderCut on his social media. Given that Snyder gave Fisher, whose sole credit since 2017's Justice League was a recurring role in Season 3 on HBO's True Detective, his start as a screen actor perhaps it's a matter of loyalty for him.

However, actor Joe Morton, who played Cyborg's dad Silas Stone, told IGN in 2017 that Whedon's reshoots were in part to alter the tone of the Cyborg character, a creative shift that could get to the heart of Fisher's retraction of his past praise for Whedon.

"Well, the stuff that I had to do were just really small little bits and pieces, nothing necessarily having to do with tone. I know that with Ray [Fisher], the young man who plays Victor, there were some adjustments that they made in terms of the tone of that character," according to Morton.

"I think what I heard was that there was a need from the studio to lighten up the film in a way, that the film felt too dark. I don't know what that meant in terms of how it actually got translated in terms of the reshoots but that's what I heard. That's what I thought some of the reshoots were about."

This isn't the first time Fisher has criticized creative personnel that worked on past DC films.

In June, Fisher responded to a tweet from Suicide Squad director David Ayer who answered a fan question about his film's timeline. In the tweet (seen below), Ayer claims Geoff Johns -- the DC Comics writer who was also then leading point on Warner Bros.' overhaul of DC Films -- added an element to Suicide Squad, which was also infamously retooled before release, that he felt "broke my timeline" of Joker. To which Fisher replied, seemingly throwing shade at Johns, "I feel your pain."

Zack Snyder's Justice League is being completed and is expected to debut on HBO Max in early-to-mid-2021.


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re: Cyborg actor Ray Fisher was for the Justice League re-shoots until he was against them
I mean... he hasn't done much stage, TV, or film work so perhaps he shouldn't be burning bridges over something that was mandated by the studio.


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re: Cyborg actor Ray Fisher was for the Justice League re-shoots until he was against them
while i will agree with what you say, i think this, along with Suicide Squad and Spiderman 3 (TM version) are prime examples of where the studio needs to stay the hell out of the way and let the creative team bring the idea to life.


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re: Cyborg actor Ray Fisher was for the Justice League re-shoots until he was against them
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However, actor Joe Morton, who played Cyborg's dad Silas Stone



Miles Dyson thinks he’s slick changing his name like that.


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re: Cyborg actor Ray Fisher was for the Justice League re-shoots until he was against them
If y’all didn’t see the tweet with the video you need to. It’s hilarious

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re: Cyborg actor Ray Fisher was for the Justice League re-shoots until he was against them
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I think what I heard was that there was a need from the studio to lighten up the film in a way, that the film felt too dark



That's called making it better. Snyder sucks, so this promo campaign of the #ReleaseTheSnyderCut is nothing more than hyping up shite with lipstick


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re: Cyborg actor Ray Fisher was for the Justice League re-shoots until he was against them
It was clear early on, particularly from the first trailer for Justice League, that Cyborg was meant to have more of a fleshed-out background and heavier involvement. Whedon's version basically made him irrelevant and just a fill-in.

I'd be pissed too if I had to promote a film that pretty much cut me out. It's no surprise he's backing the Snyder Cut now that it's become a reality.


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re: Cyborg actor Ray Fisher was for the Justice League re-shoots until he was against them
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It was clear early on, particularly from the first trailer for Justice League, that Cyborg was meant to have more of a fleshed-out background and heavier involvement. Whedon's version basically made him irrelevant and just a fill-in.


Let's face it, the story was about getting Superman back in order to defeat a menace. Why? Because Superman is a known commodity around the world and has been for decades. Cyborg, on the other hand, was barely known outside the comics (including the Titans cartoons because they are very niche).

Thinking the first Justice League movie would focus more on him than "the holy trinity" (Superman, Batman & Wonder Woman) was just naïve.


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