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LSULyle00690
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Crash (2005)
What a racist pile of crap


Freauxzen
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re: Crash (2005)
Worst Best Picture Winner ever.

And it isn't close.


LuckySo-n-So
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re: Crash (2005)
Dude. Stop.

there are 1000 threads about how "racist" this movie is.



CBandits82
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re: Crash (2005)
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Worst Best Picture Winner ever.

And it isn't close.


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LSULyle00690
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re: Crash (2005)
Where


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SG_Geaux
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re: Crash (2005)
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What a racist pile of crap


That was the point


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bluestem75
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re: Crash (2005)
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Worst Best Picture Winner ever.


Honestly, it was the best of the 5 nominees. The Academy really missed the boat with the nominations. Walk the Line, King Kong, Pride and Prejudice, Cinderella Man, The Constant Gardener, and Memoirs of a Geisha all deserved to be in that category before some of the actual nominees.

Capote and Good Night and Good Luck had no business being there over those. Munich is debatable but Spielberg has done better. I think Brokeback Mountain is an incredibly shallow view of the gay experience and plays off of gay porn fantasies; it pales when compared to Ang Lee’s other work.

Crash is actually a good example of the split, intersecting narrative style popular at the time. I was glad to see a film set in modern time reflective of a modern style of storytelling win. That being said, I would have preferred Walk the Line. (Yes, I realize I’m contradicting myself.)


GetCocky11
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re: Crash (2005)
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Good Night and Good Luck had no business being there over those


I thought Good Night and Good Luck was really, really good.


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Huey Lewis
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re: Crash (2005)
Only one Crash ever deserved an award, and it's Bandicoot.


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Lsupimp
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re: Crash (2005)
Never has a movie tried so hard to be Important. It’s a cartoon inside a bumper-sticker cliche inside a Progressive narrative, wrapped in a simplistic Platitude. The kind of thing an intelligent person fights back laughter while watching. Pointing this out triggers Blue Church Fundamentalists REALLY hard.


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PeteRose
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re: Crash (2005)
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Dude. Stop.

there are 1000 threads about how "racist" this movie is.


I don’t think there’s even 100 threads about this so it’s a clear overreaction on your sensitive heart. Besides, if takes 10,000 threads to spread the words, and they prevent 1 person to see this piece of sh*t movie, then the board has served its purpose.


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Freauxzen
USA Fan
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
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re: Crash (2005)
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Honestly, it was the best of the 5 nominees. The Academy really missed the boat with the nominations. Walk the Line, King Kong, Pride and Prejudice, Cinderella Man, The Constant Gardener, and Memoirs of a Geisha all deserved to be in that category before some of the actual nominees.

Capote and Good Night and Good Luck had no business being there over those. Munich is debatable but Spielberg has done better. I think Brokeback Mountain is an incredibly shallow view of the gay experience and plays off of gay porn fantasies; it pales when compared to Ang Lee’s other work.



Good Night, Good Luck should have won. That was a great movie. Brokeback Mountain was also worthy.

Looking back though A History of Violence was a big miss, honestly. It was a weaker year overall, that's true.



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Fewer Kilometers
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re: Crash (2005)
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King Kong... deserved to be in that category before some of the actual nominees.

Wow.

I mean...

Wow.


Muthsera
Florida Fan
Member since Jun 2017
5215 posts

re: Crash (2005)
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Wow.

I mean...

Wow.


There are lots of things people use to justify a Best Picture nominee - sometimes it is to acknowledge the execution of grand cinematic visions, even if they are somewhat flawed (King Kong would fit here). Sometimes it is to reward a movie with a tight screenplay and good performances that acts on a smaller scale but is executed flawlessly - you would hate to see some of the movies I would consider nominating with this reasoning.

Overall, let's stack some 2005 films from the wrong genre or that are inherently flawed but memorable against the actual noms:

Sin City
Fever Pitch
Kingdom of Heaven (Dir Cut)
Batman Begins
Wedding Crashers
The 40 Year Old Virgin
Lord of War
Corpse Bride
A History of Violence
Wallace and Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
Jarhead
Syriana
King Kong
The New World

vs

Crash
Brokeback Mountain
Capote
Good Night, and Good Luck
Memoirs of a Geisha

I think you could swap out any 5 from the first group for the entire second group and, with 15 years of hindsight, feel more like voters "got it right".
This post was edited on 7/1 at 9:31 am


Fewer Kilometers
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re: Crash (2005)
King Kong wasn't flawed. It was a bad movie. Substituting one bad film for another doesn't help the process.


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AyyyBaw
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re: Crash (2005)
40 year old virgin is the obvious winner here


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pevetohead
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re: Crash (2005)
Yeah it’s horrible.

However, David Cronenberg’s Crash (1996) with James Spader is fricking amazing.


Freauxzen
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Member since Feb 2006
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re: Crash (2005)
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However, David Cronenberg’s Crash (1996) with James Spader is fricking amazing.




This.

That film is gloriously bonkers. Loved it.


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Jay Are
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re: Crash (2005)
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Memoirs of a Geisha


Wasn't nominated for Best Picture...

I usually avoid generalities like "[x year] sucked," but I do think 2005 is one of American film's worst years of this century. The only movie on your flawed list is The New World, which I don't consider much flawed. The only other American movie I adore from 2005 is The Matador, which absolutely was not going to be part of an Oscars conversation.

Plenty of great foreign films were released in America in 2005. Bong's breakthrough, Memories of Murder, finally got a small awards qualifying release. Head-On, a German film featuring one of the best leading performances I've ever seen, came out. Cache is a low-key French classic.


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TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39046 posts

re: Crash (2005)
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And it isn't close.


People will claim Shakespeare but they are wrong. Shakespeare is a good movie it just shouldn't have beat SPR.

Crash is a pile of contrived shite with zero rationality behind any of the characters or their actions.


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