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As MTV Turns 40, It’s Time to Embrace the Generation That Grew Up With It
Posted on 8/2/21 at 11:01 am
Posted on 8/2/21 at 11:01 am
Probably a good pivot for MTV to make at this point instead of just the network that airs Ridiculousness
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MTV turns 40 on Sunday, and it hardly looks its age. Well, that’s because it hardly looks like, well, anything anymore. At least that’s the depressing state of the linear MTV channel, which in recent years has become 95% reruns of “Ridiculousness,” along with a handful of runs of 20-year-old movies (“Joe Dirt”) and limited first-run airings of legacy shows like “Teen Mom” and “Catfish: The TV Series.”
It’s been a cliché for years to complain about what happened to the music on MTV. (For the record, the cable network programs a grand total of one hour and 10 minutes of music programming a week — the 10-minute “Fresh Out Live” on Fridays, and the one-hour “Fresh Out Playlist” on Saturday mornings.) But the music question has been moot since the mid-2000s, when videos moved to YouTube and Vevo. The larger issue is, what happened to the programming, period, on MTV? It’s become a zombie channel, and for those of us still rooting for the brand, it’s a sad sight to see.
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MTV is a brand that has always adapted to the times. And even now, that means a new MTV for the streaming generation. That’s fine. But young viewers don’t watch linear TV anymore. Hence the decision to program mostly “Ridiculousness” repeats on the channel as a bit of a nightlight. But are we really going to let MTV as a channel fade away, with a whimper like that?
Ironically, in 2021 MTV has once again morphed its brand toward the Gen X crowd (who’s watching those docs and “The Real World: Homecoming”) and millennials (“Emily in Paris”) than Gen Z, who aren’t… watching TV at all.
That’s why I’d say, ViacomCBS would have nothing to lose at this point in making MTV back into a lifestyle channel for the original MTV Generation. A generation that, yes, still subscribes to cable. And who still fondly remembers watching wall-to-wall Live Aid coverage on MTV. Jamming to acoustic Nirvana on “MTV Unplugged.” Playing along to the pop-culture trivia on “Remote Control.” Giggling to “Just Say Julie” Brown and “Beavis & Butt-head.” Watching Vanilla Ice on “The Week in Rock” trying to justify that sample he swiped from Queen and David Bowie. Getting schooled in hip-hop 101 on “Yo! MTV Raps.” And watching the most popular videos on “Dial MTV” and, later, “TRL.”
MTV as a music destination still exists: There are three MTV music video channels on Pluto TV. And the little-watched MTV Classic, available on cable and satellite providers including DirecTV, offers up a steady diet of old music videos. But there’s no personality or life to those channels, which are also run on autopilot. Take some of those elements, add in library fare and tease out some of the MTV exclusive content found on Paramount Plus, and you’ve got at least a channel that serves as a sales tool for why the brand still means something to multiple generations.
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Posted on 8/2/21 at 11:32 am to BilJ
I honestly wish that they would just run the first 5 years or so that they were on the air on a loop.
Other than airing music documentaries and/or creating new 80s themed content, I'm not sure what else they could do to find an audience.
Other than airing music documentaries and/or creating new 80s themed content, I'm not sure what else they could do to find an audience.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 11:33 am to BilJ
I was 10 when it debuted but was 16 before we had more than 3 channels in the house. Getting cable was mindblowing... The chick on one of the channels doing aerobicize in that red bathing suit was hours of entertainment for a teenage boy..
This chick!! It was on showtime...
This chick!! It was on showtime...
This post was edited on 8/2/21 at 11:36 am
Posted on 8/2/21 at 11:36 am to BilJ
Here's a perspective. Instead of bitching about the decline of MTV, appreciate that you can now go on YouTube for free and watch any music video you want whenever you want.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 11:40 am to UndercoverBryologist
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Here's a perspective. Instead of bitching about the decline of MTV, appreciate that you can now go on YouTube for free and watch any music video you want whenever you want.
You can also download every comic ever made for free. That doesn't stop grown men from pissing themselves every time that a new comic book film or tv show comes out, does it?
Posted on 8/2/21 at 11:44 am to DaleGribble
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You can also download every comic ever made for free. That doesn't stop grown men from pissing themselves every time that a new comic book film or tv show comes out, does it?
Hmm. Not sure I'm understanding your point.
The comic book analogy to my original post would be people bitching about the local mom and pop comic book shop* closing but not appreciating the online vendors who offer a wider selection.
*I fully admit, I'm teary-eyed whenever a local brick-and-mortar shop closes more so than when a cable channel becomes obsolete.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 11:45 am to BilJ
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Playing along to the pop-culture trivia on “Remote Control.”
Posted on 8/2/21 at 11:50 am to UndercoverBryologist
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The comic book analogy to my original post would be people bitching about the local mom and pop comic book shop* closing but not appreciating the online vendors who offer a wider selection.
People who grew up on Mtv aren't nostalgic for what it used to be because they want to watch music videos.
It would be like someone like me that hates comic book films(even though I grew up reading them in the 70s) telling fans to "just read the comics".
Posted on 8/2/21 at 11:57 am to cgrand
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bring back aeon flux
f that
bring back liquid television
Posted on 8/2/21 at 12:30 pm to BilJ
Kids were so jealous that other kids had MTV back in the early 80s.
People would rent music videos at their VHS store.
There was a period from 1984-1988 when it was just pure videos all day...with the occasional Loder, Tabatha news update.
Then they started OG programming. As a tease. Remote Control. Then the Real World happened and MTV went full Honey Boo-Boo style.
Reality TV was considered so edgy when MTV did it. It passed them by and they became a parody.
Nobody subscribes to that stupid channel anymore so even if they reached out to GenXers it would fall on deaf ears.
"You can't go home again" - Thomas Wolfe
People would rent music videos at their VHS store.
There was a period from 1984-1988 when it was just pure videos all day...with the occasional Loder, Tabatha news update.
Then they started OG programming. As a tease. Remote Control. Then the Real World happened and MTV went full Honey Boo-Boo style.
Reality TV was considered so edgy when MTV did it. It passed them by and they became a parody.
Nobody subscribes to that stupid channel anymore so even if they reached out to GenXers it would fall on deaf ears.
"You can't go home again" - Thomas Wolfe
This post was edited on 8/2/21 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 8/2/21 at 12:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
They should show old videos, rock and jock, singled out, trl reruns, real world
Posted on 8/2/21 at 12:47 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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Here's a perspective. Instead of bitching about the decline of MTV, appreciate that you can now go on YouTube for free and watch any music video you want whenever you want.
As with most things, the "recent" ease of access kills the special appeal.
Music videos meant more to you because you had to wait for them or work to record and replay them. Movies, TV series, albums, comics... lack of access made them events or collectibles. It's why young hipsters are drawn to the obscure. There's more joy in learning, hunting, and finding than in just typing it into a search engine and having it spoon fed to you.
Yes, you can go to YouTube and watch any video that you want. But it's not the same experience at all.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 12:58 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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Here's a perspective. Instead of bitching about the decline of MTV, appreciate that you can now go on YouTube for free and watch any music video you want whenever you want.
Tell me you're not a Gen Xer without telling me you're not a Gen Xer.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 1:01 pm to BilJ
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Playing along to the pop-culture trivia on “Remote Control.”
Arguably, Remote Control was the beginning of the end, from a certain point of view. I get it that the final round was to name as many videos as you could, on the spinning Craftmatic Adjustable Bed, but it wasn't video-centric in itself, and that's where they began to frick up.
The I Want My MTV documentary on the Biography channel was great.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 1:19 pm to BilJ
This should have happened in the early 1990's:
Posted on 8/2/21 at 1:30 pm to TheFonz
They’re switching it up today and showing Step Brothers and Napoleon Dynamite
Posted on 8/2/21 at 1:39 pm to BilJ
Not sure what they are going to do. All of what MTV stood for (say pre 2010)is online as either YouTube channels , Discord channels etc. for pennies on the dollar that it would cost to make on over the air cable.
If they want to be Gen x/millennial nostalgia channel, good luck I guess. There are tons of docs/oral history retrospectives already
If they want to be Gen x/millennial nostalgia channel, good luck I guess. There are tons of docs/oral history retrospectives already
Posted on 8/2/21 at 1:42 pm to BilJ
I actually enjoy the MTV Classic channel now when it's the 80s and early 90s videos playing. I'll usually just put it on when I want background music while doing something else, but often find myself stopping to watch a video that's caught my attention.
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