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A thought about Donnie Darko (kinda long -- spoilers)

Posted on 8/24/20 at 2:34 pm
Posted by LSUgusto
Member since May 2005
19222 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 2:34 pm
*SPOILERS*

I saw this movie for the first time ever on Saturday, having never heard of it before. After watching it, I spent the rest of the weekend looking up explanations and analysis videos. It's an intriguing movie.

One thing I haven't seen discussed anywhere... Does anybody realize Donnie probably saved his little sister from Cunningham (Swayzee)?

Supporting evidence:
- Cunningham is caught with kiddie porn, so we know he's a sicko
- He's got some connection to the dance team Sparkle Motion because he greets them backstage before they perform.
- The dance coach, Kitty Farmer, is completely under his spell, even choosing to defend him after he's outed, rather than support her own daughter, much less Donnie's sister, on the dance team.
- During the song "Head Over Heels", Ms. Farmer at first seems to stare down the bully kid, but upon further watch, she can't take her eyes off him and seems to long for him, even choosing to follow him after he goes by. The words in the song at that exact moment are, "I wanted to be with you alone...". So, she may be battling some young lust herself, which she suppresses or hides through her moral crusading.
- Also during this song, Drew Barrymore looks disturbed when she sees the girls practicing their dance routine, as if they're being exploited in some fashion or another, and then you see her walking away looking pissed off.
- Donnie and Gretchen's class project was a device to shield children from dark or evil imagery, and they discussed what small children might or might not remember from their childhood experience while growing up.
- One point of "The Philosophy of Time Travel" is that people in the tangent universe may or may not remember some of their experience there after it collapses
- During the song "Mad World", you don't see the little girl wake up in contemplation like the others, because she probably has no memory of the tangent universe. That might not have been the case had Donnie not intervened in time.

There are a few other subtle things, but that's the crux of my argument. Anybody else pick up on this? Or am I reading entirely too much into this? Or was this completely obvious, and I shouldn't be patting myself on the back for realizing it?
This post was edited on 8/24/20 at 2:39 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89475 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 2:42 pm to
The movie has layers like an onion - couple that with its own sort of "mythology" it creates on the fly (some of it merely curious, other parts of it solely because of the unique version of time travel the film uses) - one would almost think of it as Lynchian, but Lynch would never have a neatly tied up ending like this one does - at least for his own work.

(ETA: Almost like David Lynch collaborated with the guys who made Primer and Donnie Darko popped out.)
This post was edited on 8/24/20 at 2:43 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37235 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 2:55 pm to
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During the song "Mad World",


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Cunningham (Swayzee)?



Was sobbing on the floor, probably because he DID realize what he did in the tangent universe and was finally/possibly repenting.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36007 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 2:59 pm to
I never thought of Samantha Darko as a potential victim, but you might have something there.

I suggest you listen to the DVD commentary with the director and Kevin Smith.

After that I suggest watching the director's cut.

I don't suggest that you watch the Samantha Darko movie.
Posted by LSUgusto
Member since May 2005
19222 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:21 pm to
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The movie has layers like an onion
Yes, I love movies like that. It’s too bad this movie couldn’t explain itself on its own, but still quite good.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84943 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:34 pm to
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It’s too bad this movie couldn’t explain itself on its own, but still quite good.
It couldn't or it wouldn't? I don't think a movie like this is made with the intention of being totally clear at the end. It's perfect as is.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36007 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:34 pm to
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Yes, I love movies like that. It’s too bad this movie couldn’t explain itself on its own, but still quite good.

I think it was unintentional, with the first-time director thinking that a lot of things are spelled out that really aren't. The older Darko sister dating Frank wasn't really obvious. He thought people would catch that.
Posted by LSUgusto
Member since May 2005
19222 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:46 pm to
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It's perfect as is.
I don't disagree because trying to explain what was happening would have made the movie considerably longer without editing things down.

Given the "layers of an onion" we're talking about, that would have sacrificed and taken away from what makes this such a unique and interesting film.
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