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80s film portrayal of kids
Posted on 3/19/18 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 3/19/18 at 10:36 pm
I'm just blown away at how realistic kids were portrayed I this decade.
They swore, they smoked, they drank, they had sex (or tried to).
Other decades after seemed to infantilize kids. The 80s portrayed kids how they really are around their friends and away from adults.
What changed?
They swore, they smoked, they drank, they had sex (or tried to).
Other decades after seemed to infantilize kids. The 80s portrayed kids how they really are around their friends and away from adults.
What changed?
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 10:46 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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What changed?
The Donger happened.
Seriously after John Hughes, reality was frowned upon...and we got stuff like "She's All That."
I mean even in Can't Buy Me Love they're getting wasted...
Fast Times, they're all having sex, nude, drinking, smoking weed...
Breakfast Club - getting stoned.
Sixteen Candles - the entire movie is a drunken orgy party.
Risky Business - hookers.
Porkys?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 11:10 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Ya'll skipped American Pie, Project X, Superbad, etc.?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 11:30 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
Examples, though? Other than a few -- 'Stand by Me' jumps out -- I can't really think of many movies that match this description that aren't horror or sex comedies. And those are usually really on the high end of the scale of 'kids.'
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 3/19/18 at 11:44 pm to saintsfan22
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Ya'll skipped American Pie, Project X, Superbad, etc.?
But what the OP is saying is it wasn't a big deal like it was in Superbad to buy some beer. It just was. Parties had tons of alchohol.
Kids were treated as far more adult in the 80's then in the 90's and beyond. They banged hookers and everyone had a parent who always went on trips.
And people smoked in the hallways at school and drank liquor in the parking lot.
80's movies viewed teenagers differently from the 80's to the 90's.
Which is a good question as to why?
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 3/19/18 at 11:49 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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And people smoked in the hallways at school and drank liquor in the parking lot. 80's movies viewed teenagers differently from the 80's to the 90's. Which is a good question as to why?
Maybe because kids aren't really smoking in the hallways and drinking in the school parking lot anymore?
Posted on 3/20/18 at 12:17 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
80's movies viewed teenagers differently from the 80's to the 90's.
Not as many teens smoke cigarettes to look cool now. In addition to cigarettes being pushed out of media. They can't just walk into a Circle K and buy liquor. They're being realistic.
Posted on 3/20/18 at 12:30 am to saintsfan22
No I mean...look at James Spader. He looks like an adult. Look at the actors in Superbad...they look like just over 9th grade.
All 80's films - Breakfast Club had people who looked and did adult things without question.
Jake in Sixteen Candles?
That's a grown arse man driving a Porsche. And he's supposed to be 17.
The point is - 80's showed high schoolers as semi-adults who were doing drugs and owned a business and drove fancy cars.
The 90's showed high-schoolers as just graduated grade school with the backpack on.
The point of the OP is that high schoolers were presented far differently each decade.
Which is better for movies? Which is more real? And why the shift?
All 80's films - Breakfast Club had people who looked and did adult things without question.
Jake in Sixteen Candles?
That's a grown arse man driving a Porsche. And he's supposed to be 17.
The point is - 80's showed high schoolers as semi-adults who were doing drugs and owned a business and drove fancy cars.
The 90's showed high-schoolers as just graduated grade school with the backpack on.
The point of the OP is that high schoolers were presented far differently each decade.
Which is better for movies? Which is more real? And why the shift?
Posted on 3/20/18 at 12:43 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Which is better for movies? Which is more real? And why the shift?
It seems the teenage movies from the 80s overall were better as compared to 90s ones
But the 90s ones are way more realistic, like you said in the 80s movies they had dudes who looked 28 as a senior in high school
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 12:46 am
Posted on 3/20/18 at 12:52 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
I always liked what Richard Linklater said about making Dazed and Confused. He wanted to make a movie about what high school was really like, just hanging out and trying to find something to do.
Think about it, how many of us were really able to do anything we wanted like teens in 80s movies? A lot of what we think of as classic 80s teen movies were the vision of Baby Boomers like John Hughes with really, really romanticized ideas about coming of age.
Think about it, how many of us were really able to do anything we wanted like teens in 80s movies? A lot of what we think of as classic 80s teen movies were the vision of Baby Boomers like John Hughes with really, really romanticized ideas about coming of age.
Posted on 3/20/18 at 1:00 am to PowerTool
It is interesting but I think its more movie or genre specific than it ever was about the era it was created. Some movies just do a better job of portraying real life than others.
Posted on 3/20/18 at 5:00 am to saintsfan22
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Ya'll skipped American Pie, Project X, Superbad, etc.?
They are the exceptions.
All were loathed by critics and parents groups. Superbad is never going to be given the appropriate level of reverence it deserves.
Posted on 3/20/18 at 5:33 am to elprez00
Varsity Blues showed people drinking, sexing it up and tweeter ruffing people. Juno was about a pregnant chick in high school. Superbad was mentioned earlier. I didn’t see The Edge of Seventeen, but I think it has sex and drinking. American Pie, Easy A, 10 Things I Hate About You, Can’t Hardly Wait, Charlie Bartlett, Almost Famous, and hell even Clueless had sex, drinking and/or drugs.
I’m assuming the OP is probably in that 30-45 range where we identify with those characters in 80’s movies. Kids are different now-a-days. We don’t identify with those characters because that’s not how we are. I don’t think much has changed though.
I’m assuming the OP is probably in that 30-45 range where we identify with those characters in 80’s movies. Kids are different now-a-days. We don’t identify with those characters because that’s not how we are. I don’t think much has changed though.
Posted on 3/20/18 at 6:41 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Jake in Sixteen Candles?
That's a grown arse man driving a Porsche. And he's supposed to be 17.
The point is - 80's showed high schoolers as semi-adults who were doing drugs and owned a business and drove fancy cars.
That is probably because the actor who played Jake in Sixteen Candles was well into his 20s when they filmed it.
Look at Ferris Bueller, the actor who played Cameron was almost 30 and Matthew Broderick was about 25.
Judd Nelson was around 25 when The Breakfast Club was filmed.
It is also pretty clear when watching these 80s high school films that it was a pretty romanticized view of the 80s teen experience.
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 6:43 am
Posted on 3/20/18 at 8:58 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
The drinking age was 18 most places in the 80’s, meaning it was a lot easier for 16 year-olds to get beer.
The drinking age was 21 in Superbad, and those kids were idiots who also happened to be the good, nerdy kids in school. It was a very accurate depiction of its time.
The drinking age was 21 in Superbad, and those kids were idiots who also happened to be the good, nerdy kids in school. It was a very accurate depiction of its time.
Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:46 am to PowerTool
quote:In actual truth, virtually every film about kids under the age of 20, regardless of the time period in which it is set, is an idealized, romanticized, or otherwise exaggerated version of the filmmakers' youth.
Think about it, how many of us were really able to do anything we wanted like teens in 80s movies? A lot of what we think of as classic 80s teen movies were the vision of Baby Boomers like John Hughes with really, really romanticized ideas about coming of age.
Most often what is happening on the screen is a rough approximation of what the director and/or writer wished they had been doing when they were the characters' age.
Posted on 3/20/18 at 1:00 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
I can think of a couple good 90s films of the top of my head that suggest teens party, smoke, drink, have sex, love strippers
American Pie, Cant Hardly Wait, Varsity Blues, cruel intentions, Kids
I think you had a shift to college kids or kids between high school and college going wild in the 2000s (Van Wilder, eurotrip, roadtrip, old school)
American Pie, Cant Hardly Wait, Varsity Blues, cruel intentions, Kids
I think you had a shift to college kids or kids between high school and college going wild in the 2000s (Van Wilder, eurotrip, roadtrip, old school)
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 3/20/18 at 1:19 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
saw weekend at Bernies the other day 1st time in forever.....what a terrible shallow movie, but it did capture some serious 80's cliche'
Posted on 3/20/18 at 2:03 pm to Tommy Patel
I prefer the 70s movies high school kids who were a couple years away from being eligible for Social Security.
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 3/20/18 at 4:00 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
That's well and good, but you're making a different point than the OP.
Here's OP:
He's saying 80's movies portrayed 80's kids accurately, and implying that later generations of movies did not represent their subject well.
That's why someone brought up Superbad and other more recent high school debauchery movies.
Here's OP:
quote:
how realistic kids were portrayed I this decade.
They swore, they smoked, they drank, they had sex (or tried to).
The 80s portrayed kids how they really are around their friends and away from adults.
He's saying 80's movies portrayed 80's kids accurately, and implying that later generations of movies did not represent their subject well.
That's why someone brought up Superbad and other more recent high school debauchery movies.
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