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11 Minutes, new docuseries about the Las Vegas concert mass shooting on Paramount+

Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:08 pm
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:08 pm
Wanted to recommend this new docuseries called 11 Minutes. No narrator, just interviews with people who were there (cops, concert attendees, Jason Aldean and other performers) with cell phone footage and body cams.

We never got ANY depth of coverage with this mass shooting from the media when it happened, so I highly recommend.

Incredibly stressful to watch, but its an important story to tell.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:15 pm to
Did they cover how someone with a knife couldve caused the same amount of damage in the same amount of time?
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:20 pm to
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Did they cover how someone with a knife couldve caused the same amount of damage in the same amount of time?



Link to what the docuseries is about
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:23 pm to
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Did they cover how someone with a knife couldve caused the same amount of damage in the same amount of time?






Posted by alterego55
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:30 pm to
watched episode 1 last night. cant wait to watch rest of series
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:40 pm to
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Did they cover how someone with a knife couldve caused the same amount of damage in the same amount of time?


Did they cover how the whole thing was a dispute between factions of the Saudi Royal Family and a giant assasination attempt the US 3-letters knew all about it and then tried to cover it up????

I'll hang up an listen...



Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 2:15 pm to
this is one mass shooting that i am very open to hearing conspiracy theories.

Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 3:04 pm to
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watched episode 1 last night. cant wait to watch rest of series


The videos in it are absolutely nuts. Unimaginable chaos.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 3:15 pm to
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Did they cover how the whole thing was a dispute between factions of the Saudi Royal Family and a giant assasination attempt the US 3-letters knew all about it and then tried to cover it up????

Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 3:45 pm to
quote:


Did they cover how the whole thing was a dispute between factions of the Saudi Royal Family and a giant assasination attempt the US 3-letters knew all about it and then tried to cover it up????

I'll hang up an listen...



How do you expect to hear anything with the tinfoil around your head blocking those government mind control rays?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 4:28 pm to
I’m sure this won’t be political propaganda lol
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 5:13 pm to
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Did they cover how someone with a knife couldve caused the same amount of damage in the same amount of time?


That's unrealistic, but someone could have easily done as much (or more) damage with a vehicle or explosives made from simple household chemicals.

ETA: Sorry to break up your narrative fail.
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 5:14 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 5:29 pm to
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this is one mass shooting that i am very open to hearing conspiracy theories.

Oh it's very clear something massive was covered up. The question is what, exactly. I remember when one theory was this was an ISIS attack
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51235 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:20 pm to
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I remember when one theory was this was an ISIS attack


I think ISIS actually claimed he was one of theirs
Posted by LasVegasTiger
Idaho
Member since Apr 2008
8047 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:27 pm to
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Did they cover how someone with a knife couldve caused the same amount of damage in the same amount of time?


Would be impressive from 32 floors up across the street. That is some precision knife throwing.
Posted by Mr Boyles
Member since Mar 2022
1600 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:24 pm to
I’ll chime in and take it for whatever.

I used to work in the glass industry and I know glass very well.

The glass in Mandalay Bay had to be tempered glass being in a high rise and the glass was from floor to ceiling. Any glass installed under 18” from the floor MUST be tempered in case a kid accidentally falls into the glass.

Tempered glass is 8-10 times stronger than non tempered glass. Having to break through two pieces of glass (Insulated double pane window) would NOT have broke like that. In fact. It would have been damn near impossible because the tempered glass is extremely strong

The glass that was busted out was NOT Tempered Glass. If it was tempered glass then there would not have been a fricking hole in the glass. The glass would have shattered into a million small little pieces.

There is noway that a billion dollar casino would have allowed NON tempered glass to be installed in their windows. Even if Mandalay Bay was trying to cut corners while building the hotel, there is NOWAY that non tempered glass would have passed inspection

This is NOT tempered glass



This is how a broken tempered glass window breaks



Which tells me there was some major frickery going on with that entire story just looking at that double pane window
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 9:09 pm
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:09 pm to
You sure that isn't some tint/film that is holding the broken glass together? Maybe something to help block out the sunlight.
Posted by Mr Boyles
Member since Mar 2022
1600 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:19 pm to
No tint/film. It was glass produced by a company called Pilkington / Viracon - which is one of the worlds largest glass manufacturing companies and the only company in the world at that time who produced Gold Glass.

Tint/film on that glass in the Las Vegas heat would not have lasted longer than a week without pealing and cracking.

The inboard glass of the double pane window was Low-E (energy savings/heat resistant) and the outboard glass (facing the road) was the gold glass

In fact, I think the New Orleans Saints training facility has that same glass installed in their windows

LINK — Produced the double pane windows

LINK — Produced the glass to make the double pane windows

Pretty interesting stuff huh? That’s why I just know there was some shady shite going on with that entire event
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 9:38 pm
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22706 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:22 pm to
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think ISIS actually claimed he was one of theirs


They may have claimed it and the media may have run with it at first, but it wasn't then... Not close. It was Saudis, all day long, and the concert shooting was a distraction to try to take out the real target... The Saudi Crown Prince.

See, there are multiple factions within the KSA royal family. The top dogs, #1 and #2, love Trump, but #3 hates him, and Trump had just struck a historic deal with KSA #1 that allowed women to drive and to lessen some of the restrictive laws in the country.

The deal was struck because the Saudis were actually trying to kill US fracking and energy indoendence by balling the market and flooding it with oil, but it didn't work. The US energy production under Trump was just too much of a behemouth for the Saudis to wait out.

The shooting was actually an attempt for KSA #3 to take out KSA #2, the crown prince.

The Top 4 floors of Mandalay Bay are actually a Four seasons, and owned by. . Guess who?? KSA #3. The same guy who owns 8% of Twitter and loves the Bush family....

LINK


quote:

Paddock is the contact man to supply the guns. OK. He meets a couple of assassins ahead of time (remember, the shooting starts at 10:05).

At this point, Paddock is thinking this is a gun deal. Only a few magazines are loaded.

He merely wants to show the customers how to load the chamber etc… What he doesn’t know is that the advance team was sent to secure the floor. That all, but one entry point to the floor would be barricaded (crucial since the reason security guard Campos becomes suspicious of the blocked doors is what ultimately leads him to investigate).

The reason for the barricade is that once the assault starts, the assassins want to make sure to impede the authorities as much as possible from reaching the top floors. 

CIA/FBI (or Trump’s own intelligence) got wind of the assassination that was about to take place. Immediate action is taken to round up the assassins.

Remember, we’re talking about an army of assassins here. You can’t kill a Crown Prince who’s protected by 30 armed bodyguards by pulling a Jack Ruby. I estimate at least 20 assassins in total.



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What the assassins didn’t know was that the prince had disguised himself as a regular dude to enjoy the nightlife in Vegas. (Saudi princes have been known to do this).

He had slipped away from the Mandalay and was at the Tropicana playing some cards. As soon as the FBI (or some other agency) learned of the assassination plot, they stormed the Tropicana and extracted the prince.



This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 10:28 pm
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51235 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 6:49 am to
So Paddock opened fire on a concert festival from 300 yards away to kill a Saudi prince?

Seems like there'd be better ways to go about doing that.
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