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Why is it so hard to be successful at Texas?

Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:17 am
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3898 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:17 am
First choice in state recruits, money for coaches and facilities, great location, your own television network, lower tier P5 conference competition, etc. Tom Herman has an excellent resume. They shouldn’t have any competition except an annual game with Oklahoma.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
19964 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:19 am to
Unreasonable boosters that have too much control
Posted by Jizzy08
Member since Aug 2008
11214 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:19 am to
Austin overall has gone soft.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:19 am to
It wouldn't be for someone that can handle the boosters.

Think Texas HS football parents/boosters x1,000,000. They all inject themselves into everything.

Mack Brown could politic his arse off with those people.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9234 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:19 am to
I think as much as anything, dealing with the university, the city of Austin and the politics that surround it, make the job a lot harder than it should be.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
15718 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:20 am to
It’s all the fricking dildos people are packing around campus.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24118 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:22 am to
The right coach can definitely have success there; however, I think the school lacks the toughness and attitude to create an edge. Austin is a different culture than the rest of Texas and it impacts the way the school is run (all the way up the ladder). The fan base is soft and generally acts like they deserve special treatment....which is reflected on the field.

FWIW, I have a degree from Texas.
Posted by castorinho
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:25 am to
Meddling
Posted by Backinthe615
Member since Nov 2011
6871 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:31 am to
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Mack


Yep. They Fulmered themselves.
Posted by Oddibe
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Member since Sep 2015
6564 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:33 am to
IMO, Texas high schools do a pretty good at maximizing the ability of the high school kids and this includes work in the weight room. The reality is a lot of their recruits are close to their personal ceiling, outside of natural growth spurt.

Take some kid out of small town Louisiana that is 6’5” 260 with raw athleticism and put him in the weight room with a nutritionist available and you will find he has much more upside than the same kid from a Texas high school.

I don’t know if my theory has any merit but it’s my theory.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:42 am to
For one, this is simply a different era and "TEXAS" doesn't carry the same clout it did even a decade ago. In the mack-era Texas was always one of those top schools that just about every high profile recruit considered which just isn't the case today. Them having a down period is also huge. When you're constantly great and contendign for titles you're pretty much on cruise. We've seen at plenty of big schools like UF, UT, nebraska, etc. that once you hit that first little downturn, you're not on cruise anymore nad you've got to work that much harder. And lastly they've got a little bigger competition in recruiting. As you said it used to be oklahoma only. Now they compete with OU, Texas A&M that can sell the SEC, a resurgent LSU, and obviously bama who gets most of who they want nationally.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36565 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:43 am to
quote:

IMO, Texas high schools do a pretty good at maximizing the ability of the high school kids and this includes work in the weight room. The reality is a lot of their recruits are close to their personal ceiling, outside of natural growth spurt.


I think there is something to this, especially during the Mack years. He didn’t recruit potential, he recruited stars. It killed them up front. Texas didn’t have an o-linemen drafted from 07-18. I think a lot of that was getting commits from linemen when they were juniors.

Texas also just hasn’t really dominated Houston like they use to. Letting players from northshore and Lamar go to LSU is unacceptable

Posted by YF12
Ottobaan
Member since Nov 2019
4451 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:44 am to
Because Austin is a city for fat chicks with purple hair, trannies, and men that dont know how to change a tire

Good at football. Yeah right.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Member since Oct 2014
45084 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:45 am to
Its way tougher being better at Baylor and we’ve managed to re-build the program twice this decade.

Austin has no excuse.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36565 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:47 am to
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Its way tougher being better at Baylor and we’ve managed to re-build the program twice this decade.



Baylor zigged at the right time too. I liked Rhule but didn’t know if he could recruit the players at Baylor to play to his style. I am very impressed with what he has done.

Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:48 am to
Confluence of many things, but I think in the end, Texas is soft. Soft due to relative affluence, soft because of the brand of football played in Texas high schools, soft due to the mindset in Austin, soft due to entitlement, and on and on.

Football is a game designed in some ways to mimic trench warfare. It does not lend itself to softness.

Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51369 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:49 am to
It's not, did you miss all the success they had with Brown? I still think Herman will do great. They were hit hard with injuries this year.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112181 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:49 am to
High expectations with an elite program in your way for the league title
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68267 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:50 am to
Texas better watch out or they will find themselves with programs like Nebraska, Miami, Tennessee as programs people are calling dead.
Posted by Oddibe
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Member since Sep 2015
6564 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:53 am to
quote:

Texas also just hasn’t really dominated Houston like they use to. Letting players from northshore and Lamar go to LSU is unacceptable
No school in the state of Texas has the ability to put a fence around Houston. There are literally more people in the Houston metro are than the total combined state of Louisiana.
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