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Why don’t more NFL draft prospects tell poorly-run franchises to kick rocks?
Posted on 1/24/22 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 1/24/22 at 12:42 pm
i.e. let’s say WFT and league’s worst owner Snyder wants to draft Corral at 11. Corral pulls an Elway/Eli, and says thanks, but no thanks.
What power or leverage would the WFT have in the situation?
Rookie pay scale mostly eliminates the financial incentive to sign with a shitty franchise.
I feel like we will begin to see more of this as a result of the power that NIL is giving college athletes, which is awesome. Players deserve more control over their careers—even as rookies.
What power or leverage would the WFT have in the situation?
Rookie pay scale mostly eliminates the financial incentive to sign with a shitty franchise.
I feel like we will begin to see more of this as a result of the power that NIL is giving college athletes, which is awesome. Players deserve more control over their careers—even as rookies.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 12:45 pm to sorantable
quote:Cal McNair says hi!
worst owner Snyder
Posted on 1/24/22 at 12:45 pm to sorantable
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What power or leverage would the WFT have in the situation?
I am pretty sure they own his rights to play in the NFL until they trade it away.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 12:46 pm to sorantable
Elway had other options besides football. If a team succumbs to players saying they won’t play for them then they open themselves up to this repeatedly. Not many players are willing to lose a year of their earning power when the window is so small to begin with.
This post was edited on 1/24/22 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 1/24/22 at 12:47 pm to thadcastle
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I am pretty sure they own his rights to play in the NFL until they trade it away.
It's one year, until the next draft.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 12:49 pm to thadcastle
I’m pretty sure a player could simply sit out a year and then re-enter the draft. Of course, that’s a big bet to take, but if you’re positive you’re going to a franchise that will never build a winner around you, what’s one year?
Posted on 1/24/22 at 12:49 pm to sorantable
You have to be willing to sit out an entire year and be confident enough that your stock won’t drop next year.
You’re also delaying your second contract (a much bigger one likely) for a year.
You’re also delaying your second contract (a much bigger one likely) for a year.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 12:49 pm to sorantable
Elway had the threat of baseball to give him leverage. Eli came from a family that could afford to threaten he sit.
I could see it happening more with NIL where the top players will be coming out of college multimillionaires , but still going to be pretty rare.
I could see it happening more with NIL where the top players will be coming out of college multimillionaires , but still going to be pretty rare.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 12:55 pm to usc6158
Would be a game changer if draft eligibility didn't cause you to lose your college eligibility.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 12:56 pm to sorantable
Depends I guess how you view a franchises poor management affecting results and what a draft prospect actually cares about.
WFT was in the playoffs just a year ago. They have some nice pieces in place.
All the daily debate shows did a segment about Burrow refusing to sign with the Bengals, even Carson Palmer had quotes on it. Mike Brown is terrible, cheap, no indoor facility, coach is a joke blah blah… year 2 in the AFC title game.
Jags were in the AFC title game 4 years ago.
There’s always a chance even with the shitty franchises. Plus the only players that get discussed about potentially pulling this move are the top of the first round guys. Ideally you’d want those high draft picks taking on the attitude that they are the ones to turn around a franchise’s bad fortune. I think as long as that pay check clears, most of those guys welcome the challenge, at least at that age coming out of college.
WFT was in the playoffs just a year ago. They have some nice pieces in place.
All the daily debate shows did a segment about Burrow refusing to sign with the Bengals, even Carson Palmer had quotes on it. Mike Brown is terrible, cheap, no indoor facility, coach is a joke blah blah… year 2 in the AFC title game.
Jags were in the AFC title game 4 years ago.
There’s always a chance even with the shitty franchises. Plus the only players that get discussed about potentially pulling this move are the top of the first round guys. Ideally you’d want those high draft picks taking on the attitude that they are the ones to turn around a franchise’s bad fortune. I think as long as that pay check clears, most of those guys welcome the challenge, at least at that age coming out of college.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 12:56 pm to sorantable
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league’s worst owner Snyder
Arthur Blank is in that convo, also.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 12:58 pm to sorantable
I get what you are saying but 2 things. 1 they still get paid millions of dollars and play in the NFL and 2 a lot of them think they will turn around what ever team it is.
As fans it’s hard to see the Red..er Football team amounting to anything with Synder at the helm but we’ve seen some shitty owners win, Bill Bidwell was a poster child for shitty a owner and they got to and damn near won a SB
As fans it’s hard to see the Red..er Football team amounting to anything with Synder at the helm but we’ve seen some shitty owners win, Bill Bidwell was a poster child for shitty a owner and they got to and damn near won a SB
Posted on 1/24/22 at 1:02 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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Arthur Blank is in that convo, also.
He's not a top tier owner, but he's nowhere close to the same conversation as Snyder and McNair.
The Falcons just suck. The aforementioned dudes are on the cutting edge of finding new ways to suck. I.E. Jack Easterby and Youth Pastoring your franchise to death.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 1:03 pm to DirtyDawg
Blank needs to sell the team.
He's clueless.
And Blank has a lot to do w/that
He's clueless.
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The Falcons just suck.
And Blank has a lot to do w/that
This post was edited on 1/24/22 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 1/24/22 at 1:05 pm to sorantable
Just what we need, another league run by the players like the NBA.
No
No
Posted on 1/24/22 at 1:05 pm to sorantable
You need leverage to do that. Elway and Bo had baseball and Eli had the Manning name. Otherwise, teams can just hold on to the player for an entire year and force them to reenter the draft the following year and nobody wants to do that. Also, if that player isn't a #1 overall pick talent like Eli or Elway, NFL owners will collude to have that player drop several rounds in the following draft if they refuse to play for a team.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 1:09 pm to lob1284
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All the daily debate shows did a segment about Burrow refusing to sign with the Bengals, even Carson Palmer had quotes on it. Mike Brown is terrible, cheap, no indoor facility, coach is a joke blah blah… year 2 in the AFC title game.
This board and the rant was littered with LSU fans crying and saying "Joe doesn't deserve this".
Burrow and the rest of the Bengals players turned out not to be such snowflakes.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 1:12 pm to Weagle25
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You have to be willing to sit out an entire year and be confident enough that your stock won’t drop next year.
And that you won't fall to another or the same crappy team next year.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 1:16 pm to Jcorye1
quote:That's how I understand it as well, and that's a shite ton of leverage.
It's one year, until the next draft.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 1:17 pm to SoDakHawk
quote:Are you still able to go to the draft without an agent and return, or was that just NBA? And whatever it was, does that still happen?
Would be a game changer if draft eligibility didn't cause you to lose your college eligibility.
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