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Why does society perceive playing football earns the right of payment?
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:20 pm
This is in relation the the US semesters comments about the Ohio State coach being paid 4.5 million while the players get nothing.
When did everyone forget that playing football is completely VOLUNTARY. No one is making these kids play the game.
They see the glammer and money and don’t care about the risk.
I’m perplexed that parents push for their kids to play this violent game and refuse to acknowledge the inherent risks.
Maybe we should enlighten our youth that every decision in life carries risk. Football being one.
/rant
When did everyone forget that playing football is completely VOLUNTARY. No one is making these kids play the game.
They see the glammer and money and don’t care about the risk.
I’m perplexed that parents push for their kids to play this violent game and refuse to acknowledge the inherent risks.
Maybe we should enlighten our youth that every decision in life carries risk. Football being one.
/rant
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:21 pm to Tshiz
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glammer
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:24 pm to Tshiz
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Why does society perceive playing football earns the right of payment?
Supply and demand.
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glammer
Jesus Christ.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:24 pm to Tshiz
they need to tie the stipend pool to what the coach makes...
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:25 pm to Tshiz
I’m sure a lot of the bitching is centered on the fact that football players are required to be 3 years from HS graduation to get paid, unlike other sports.
The problems with that argument are that football is a particularly rough contact sport where 18 year old kids would be a smear on the turf if they were playing against pros, there is no feeder system a la MLB and NHL, and there is no international market for football.
Got a problem with it? Switch to a sport like basketball where you can play in Europe rather than go to college while waiting for the NBA draft.
The problems with that argument are that football is a particularly rough contact sport where 18 year old kids would be a smear on the turf if they were playing against pros, there is no feeder system a la MLB and NHL, and there is no international market for football.
Got a problem with it? Switch to a sport like basketball where you can play in Europe rather than go to college while waiting for the NBA draft.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:26 pm to Tshiz
Young men do way more dangerous shite to get laid than play football.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:29 pm to Tshiz
Because it’s a completely artificial restraint on trade
The concept of the draft is also completely fricked but that’s another discussion. I’ll ask you though how you’d feel if upon graduation a cartel told you you could be employed in Milwaukee and Milwaukee only?
The concept of the draft is also completely fricked but that’s another discussion. I’ll ask you though how you’d feel if upon graduation a cartel told you you could be employed in Milwaukee and Milwaukee only?
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:29 pm to Tshiz
what are you even asking? your title and your actual post are about two separate things
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:29 pm to teke184
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I’m sure a lot of the bitching is centered on the fact that football players are required to be 3 years from HS graduation to get paid, unlike other sports.
The problems with that argument are that football is a particularly rough contact sport where 18 year old kids would be a smear on the turf if they were playing against pros, there is no feeder system a la MLB and NHL, and there is no international market for football.
Got a problem with it? Switch to a sport like basketball where you can play in Europe rather than go to college while waiting for the NBA draft.
Exactly. People want to blame the NCAA and make them “fix” a problem that has nothing to do with them. It’s not their problem that there is no viable way for an 18 yo to get paid to play football.
And the suggested “fix” makes no economic sense either. Why does everyone need to get paid simply because a tiny handful of them are good enough to play professionally?
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:31 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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I’ll ask you though how you’d feel if upon graduation a cartel told you you could be employed in Milwaukee and Milwaukee only?
I’d find something else to do if it bothered me enough. Collegiate football players have the exact same option.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:31 pm to StupidBinder
quote:the NFL could easily go the MLB route and set up a minor league system where they draft players out of high school and put them under team control through the minors
It’s not their problem that there is no viable way for an 18 yo to get paid to play football.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:32 pm to Tshiz
it's a poliboard topic.
as an interesting take, watch the last season of Ballers. they went full bitch mode on this topic.
as an interesting take, watch the last season of Ballers. they went full bitch mode on this topic.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:32 pm to StupidBinder
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:33 pm to WestCoastAg
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the NFL could easily go the MLB route and set up a minor league system where they draft players out of high school and put them under team control through the minors
IMO, that’s what should happen. But the NFL would almost certainly have to subsidize the farm league and there’s no incentive for them to do that now. They’d have to be forced.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:34 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Well... doctors go for 4 years of undergrad, 3 years of med school, and several years of residency. And the latter two tend to be wherever there is an opening who will take you, not wherever you feel like setting up shop.
That effectively ties up where you can be for a minimum of 4 years (3 of med school, at least 1 of residency) before you have any real input on where you can practice.
That effectively ties up where you can be for a minimum of 4 years (3 of med school, at least 1 of residency) before you have any real input on where you can practice.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:34 pm to teke184
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And the latter two tend to be wherever there is an opening who will take you
That’s not the same thing at all, now is it?
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:35 pm to StupidBinder
quote:well yea. the incentive is the same as it is for MLB teams. you get players, put them in your system, let them learn your system of football and all that comes with it, and have them come out at 22 more ready for the game as they are specialized to play for your organization. plus im sure there are A LOT of people who would watch and pay for that, unlike minor league baseball
But the NFL would almost certainly have to subsidize the farm league and there’s no incentive for them to do that now.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:36 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Kind of is.
There is a very small number of med school openings and residency slots in the US per federal law.
It effectively sets up a draft where the top tier schools get first choice, the secondary schools go next, and the people not chosen by them get a choice of a third tier toilet or changing fields.
There is a very small number of med school openings and residency slots in the US per federal law.
It effectively sets up a draft where the top tier schools get first choice, the secondary schools go next, and the people not chosen by them get a choice of a third tier toilet or changing fields.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:38 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Because it’s a completely artificial restraint on trade
It's weird that when it comes to sports, America set up our pro-leagues as socialists structures and Europeans set theirs up very capitalists.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:38 pm to teke184
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Kind of is.
It’s not at all
You can go wherever they will have you, as opposed to being told you have to go to this city or that. They system doctors go through to gain residency is not that. This is painfully basic.
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