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Whether you want to admit it or not, Kaepernick may actually win his case.

Posted on 10/16/17 at 12:57 am
Posted by Skyler97
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 10/16/17 at 12:57 am
The 17th all time leader in passer rating (higher than Carr, Stafford, and Luck) who the last time he played put up a 4:1 TD to INT ratio should be employed all things considered. If Kap had never sat he would have a job. Now I think it should be the owners decision but to act like this won't be a battle on the NFLs part is stupid. All it's gonna take is one judge who wants to be in on one of the biggest sports rulings ever and this shite is gonna blow up
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/16/17 at 12:58 am to
should have posted this in 11 hours
Posted by Skyler97
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 10/16/17 at 12:58 am to
Whys that
Posted by dawg4lyfe
Member since May 2012
11662 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 1:00 am to
If Kaep sitting is the sole reason he doesn't have a job, how come all these other players sitting aren't getting cut?
Posted by LSUSoulja08
Member since Oct 2007
16969 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 1:01 am to


Short of a Donald Sterling type recording that has every owner on it agreeing to what he is accusing them of, he's not proving or winning a god damn thing
This post was edited on 10/16/17 at 1:03 am
Posted by Skyler97
Member since Mar 2014
4482 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 1:03 am to
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If Kaep sitting is the sole reason he doesn't have a job, how come all these other players sitting aren't getting cut?


Uhm, because it's a lot easier to punish one person than an entire team
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/16/17 at 1:05 am to
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Uhm, because it's a lot easier to punish one person than an entire team


Eric Reid kneeled with Kaepernick last season and he kneeled this season. Eric Reid is still in the NFL.
Posted by Skyler97
Member since Mar 2014
4482 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 1:05 am to
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Short of a Donald Sterling type recording that has every owner on it agreeing to what he is accusing them of, he's not proving or winning a god damn thing



Only a fool couldn't see that he is being blackballed to a certain degree. Joe Flacco has 4 TD to 8 INT and averaging like 5 yards a pass. Do you honestly believe that Kaep couldn't do better?
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 1:06 am to
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last time he played put up a 4:1 TD to INT ratio should be employed all things considered.

Then I guess he should join up with Chip Kelly who led him to such great success . . . oh wait.

Chip Kelly's system was picked apart and he's no longer coaching in the NFL.

Also, less than a year ago, Colin Kaepernick set NFl history, in a bad way:
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At the time the Niners pulled him for Gabbert, Kaepernick was 1-of-5 passing for 4 yards, with no touchdowns and no interceptions for a passer rating of 39.6. He was also sacked five times for 25 yards, leaving the Niners with negative-21 net passing yards and a 24-6 deficit at the time of his departure.

In the process, Kaepernick became the first quarterback in NFL history to be sacked five times and throw for fewer than 5 yards in a game, according to ESPN Stats & Information.
Posted by LSUSoulja08
Member since Oct 2007
16969 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 1:06 am to
you really think that line of reasoning wins you a lawsuit?
Posted by Skyler97
Member since Mar 2014
4482 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 1:07 am to
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Eric Reid


Hasn't had his contract expire yet and wasn't the first to do it
Posted by Skyler97
Member since Mar 2014
4482 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 1:09 am to
Okay MSB you win. Colin Kaepernick doesn't have a job because he sucks and for no other reason at all. I'm gonna have to hit you guys up if I ever get in legal trouble, you buncha lawyers
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/16/17 at 1:13 am to
Kaepernick is clearly being black balled by the league but the burden of proof is very high, and I don't see how he would win the case.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64470 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 1:14 am to
Are we dismissing the part where Colin opted out of his contract. He also started and publicized this movement. He wore socks calling cops pigs. He wore a Fidel Castro t shirt to a press conference. He is a fricking nightmare PR problem. Plenty of good players can't find work because of baggage they carry off the field. He does not have a case unless all the owners got together and agreed no one would sign him. That's not what is happening.
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 1:14 am to
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Only a fool couldn't see that he is being blackballed to a certain degree.

Well that's not the standard that is needed to be proven.

ESPN LINK
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The NFL's collective bargaining agreement, which governs such disputes, makes clear that the failure to sign a player is not in itself enough to prove collusion. Instead, it must be combined with evidence that teams entered into an agreement, express or implied, to bar the player's employment.

Here's the relevant wording of the CBA's "burden of proof" for collusion:

"The failure by a club or clubs to negotiate, to submit offer sheets, or to sign contracts with restricted free agents or transition players, or to negotiate, make offers, or sign contracts for the playing services of such players or unrestricted free agents, shall not, by itself or in combination only with evidence about the playing skills of the player(s) not receiving any such offer or contract, satisfy the burden of proof set forth …"


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Joe Flacco has 4 TD to 8 INT and averaging like 5 yards a pass. Do you honestly believe that Kaep couldn't do better?

That doesn't matter.

The Ravens have a good reason to not invite a quarterback controversy: If Kaepernick does well, they would probably need to cut Flacco which leaves $28,750,000 cap hit if cut after 2017. That's not counting Kaepernick's salary.

That's allowed by the CBA. The fact that other kneeling players are still employed and even starting is strong evidence against collusion.

Quarterbacks have a huge public presence; the Dolphins hated Brent Grimes wife twittering and I can only imagine how much teams want to avoid giving Kaepernick's fiance/girlfriend a larger platform to boycott them.
Miko Grimes link #1
Miko Grimes link #2
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 1:19 am to
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Colin Kaepernick doesn't have a job because he sucks and for no other reason at all.

It can be any number of reasons. They could think he looks too skinny for his height and it's okay. The evaluation of signing a player is subjective and they can use a huge variety of factors to judge a candidate, including their effect on public relations. That's why the Dolphins probably didn't want him; the Castro praising isn't going to go over well in Miami. And they also dealt with Brent Grimes wife.

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I'm gonna have to hit you guys up if I ever get in legal trouble, you buncha lawyers

Funnily enough . . .
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61111 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 1:36 am to
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Hasn't had his contract expire yet and wasn't the first to do it


Why does it matter who's first? You just said it's hard to " fire the whole team" instead of just 1 person. Eric Reid was also kneeling with him when virtually no one else was kneeling. So is 2 people hard to fire among 50 guys? It completely debunks your charge.

Kaepernick has no shot, he's not entitled to a job.


If I said show me clear evidence owners collectively communicated with one another to not sign Kaepernick, what would you show me?

Are owners collectively getting together to not sign Tim Tebow? Maybe Tim Tebow should sue the NFL.
Posted by dawg4lyfe
Member since May 2012
11662 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 1:44 am to
He is the one that opted out. His dumbass fault. End of story.
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20386 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 1:46 am to
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He is the one that opted out. His dumbass fault. End of story.

Posted by McCaigBro69
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Member since Oct 2014
45084 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 1:48 am to
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Joe Flacco has 4 TD to 8 INT and averaging like 5 yards a pass. Do you honestly believe that Kaep couldn't do better?


I mean didn't Flacco beat Kaep in the Super Bowl? This question answers itself on who is better.
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