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What would you think if PGA assessed a penalty on Sergio?
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:50 pm
We all know about the terrible Lexi Thompson incident. And I have seen a penalty iassessed in the past because one grain of sand was seen on super slo mo that flew up on a golfer's backswing. They have since changed the rule on this.
In today's final round at the Masters, there was a concern that Segio's ball may have moved while he was cleaning the pine straw around it. They replayed the event in super slo mo and it showed the ball did not move. But what if it did in an almost imperceptible way that can't be seen unless it is viewed in super slo mo? And what if the PGA assessed a penalty on Sergio a couple of holes later that resulted in him losing?
In today's final round at the Masters, there was a concern that Segio's ball may have moved while he was cleaning the pine straw around it. They replayed the event in super slo mo and it showed the ball did not move. But what if it did in an almost imperceptible way that can't be seen unless it is viewed in super slo mo? And what if the PGA assessed a penalty on Sergio a couple of holes later that resulted in him losing?
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:52 pm to gumbeaux
Since he ended up winning by 2 it might still be ok
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:53 pm to gobuxgo5
Well he wouldn't have been in a playoff otherwise.
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:54 pm to gobuxgo5
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Since he ended up winning by 2 it might still be ok
He won by 2 in a playoff. He was tied in regulation. It would have made a difference. And would have affected his psyche.
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:55 pm to TotesMcGotes
Imagine if it happened tomorrow.
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:58 pm to gumbeaux
Happened to DJ some years ago, grounded his club and got left out of the playoff.
Posted on 4/9/17 at 11:00 pm to gumbeaux
if you were the runner up, I bet you'd think differently.
Posted on 4/9/17 at 11:00 pm to VA LSU fan
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Imagine if it happened tomorrow
That would be horrible. And that is what happened to Lexi Thompson....she was informed the next day in the middle of the final round of the penalty and signing an incorrect scorecard. But to assess the penalty the day after a tournament is over would just be terrible. The golf world would come unglued.
This post was edited on 4/9/17 at 11:03 pm
Posted on 4/9/17 at 11:07 pm to gumbeaux
Once the tournament is over he can't be assessed a penalty. Even if the ball did move they can't go back now.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 12:38 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Lexi got the big green weenie of the PGA...DJ got hit last years US open and came back to win. This was Sergios year, as shown by his iron play.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 12:59 am to gumbeaux
The Masters isn't a PGA event, FWIW.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 7:41 am to Mingo Was His NameO
The rule should be that once the next round begins (not once the player has teed off in the next round), no penalties can be assessed for a prior round's play.
Otherwise, you could literally go back and review every single thing from Thursday through Saturday looking for something to screw some guy over.
The Tour needs to address this in a public way. Re-state the policy for all to hear.
Also, quite frankly, they need to stop taking calls, texts and emails from every Johnny Rulebook out there looking for the most minor of infractions. Tour players know a camera is likely recording their every move, plus you have fans all over the course. That should be enough. If all those eyes don't catch it the first time, then too bad.
Otherwise, you could literally go back and review every single thing from Thursday through Saturday looking for something to screw some guy over.
The Tour needs to address this in a public way. Re-state the policy for all to hear.
Also, quite frankly, they need to stop taking calls, texts and emails from every Johnny Rulebook out there looking for the most minor of infractions. Tour players know a camera is likely recording their every move, plus you have fans all over the course. That should be enough. If all those eyes don't catch it the first time, then too bad.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:17 am to mtntiger
The USGA addressed this a couple of years ago. Prior to then, Lexi would have been DQed for signing an incorrect scorecard. They now allow you to be assessed a two shot penalty and continue the competition.
I really don't understand why everybody is so upset over this.
I really don't understand why everybody is so upset over this.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:19 am to gobuxgo5
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Since he ended up winning by 2 it might still be ok
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:23 am to threeputt
quote:I think if anything, a penalty for signing an incorrect scorecard is stupid if it's assessed afterwards. Obviously it was worse when it was a DQ, but I just don't a penalty whatsoever if no one has a way of knowing it's incorrect at the time.
Prior to then, Lexi would have been DQed for signing an incorrect scorecard. They now allow you to be assessed a two shot penalty and continue the competition.
I really don't understand why everybody is so upset over this.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:25 am to mtntiger
quote:Actually think is an issue. Some players have far more camera exposure than others. So the opportunity to catch something minor varies greatly as well.
Tour players know a camera is likely recording their every move
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:25 am to Woopigsooie20
If the tournament was run by the PGA or USGA they absolutely would have fricked up.
However, the Masters committee runs the Masters, and they arent a bunch of dumbasses.
However, the Masters committee runs the Masters, and they arent a bunch of dumbasses.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:28 am to Golfer
quote:Im going to be that guy. It is a PGA tour and European tour event. It just isnt run by either......
The Masters isn't a PGA event
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:39 am to gumbeaux
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We all know about the terrible Lexi Thompson incident. And I have seen a penalty iassessed in the past because one grain of sand was seen on super slo mo that flew up on a golfer's backswing. They have since changed the rule on this.
In today's final round at the Masters, there was a concern that Segio's ball may have moved while he was cleaning the pine straw around it. They replayed the event in super slo mo and it showed the ball did not move. But what if it did in an almost imperceptible way that can't be seen unless it is viewed in super slo mo? And what if the PGA assessed a penalty on Sergio a couple of holes later that resulted in him losing?
They need to limit call in etc
also they need to drop the penalty on wrong card non-sense.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:45 am to thelawnwranglers
This is off-topic but I didn't feel like it warranted starting a new thread.
What would happen if a fan intentionally moved a ball? Like let's say it's a playoff and a guy tees off and goes WAY off into the woods, and a fan in the woods who likes the golfer just picks the ball up and throws it right down the fairway. Now obviously teh fan would be escorted out and never allowed back, but I mean as it relates to the golf. Is that just "one of those things" and they just roll with it, or woudl they look at film and try to place the ball back to its original spot?
What would happen if a fan intentionally moved a ball? Like let's say it's a playoff and a guy tees off and goes WAY off into the woods, and a fan in the woods who likes the golfer just picks the ball up and throws it right down the fairway. Now obviously teh fan would be escorted out and never allowed back, but I mean as it relates to the golf. Is that just "one of those things" and they just roll with it, or woudl they look at film and try to place the ball back to its original spot?
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