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What if Joe Montana had gone against the Cowboys instead of Steve Young during the rivalry

Posted on 3/4/21 at 6:07 pm
Posted by Tarik One
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 6:07 pm
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Would the results have been the same or not?
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 6:14 pm to
The 49ers gave up 30 points and over 400 yards to the Cowboys in the '92 NFC Championship Game and allowed 38 points in the '93 NFC Championship Game. I don't see how a change in QB would have altered the results of those games.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 6:15 pm to
Prime Montana or KC Montana?
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75126 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 6:18 pm to
Nobody was coming close to beating America’s team
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12713 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 6:22 pm to
This is a dumb question. Steve young was the mvp in 1992.

In 94, he won the mvp again and they won the super bowl. His 94 season is arguably the gold standard for a qb, outside the last 15 years or so when the entire league went insane with the passing stats.

Swapping in Montana would do nothing. You could argue peak young is better than peak Montana.
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 6:27 pm to
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You could argue peak young is better than peak Montana


Lol no
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41154 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 6:28 pm to
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The 49ers gave up 30 points and over 400 yards to the Cowboys in the '92 NFC Championship Game


The Cowboys had 1 yard more than the 49ers, both had 24 first downs. It was a 4 point game heading into the 4th quarter.

The difference was the 49ers had 4 turnovers, Young was responsible for a few of them.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 7:11 pm to
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You could argue peak young is better than peak Montana


Lol no



The stats on paper are better for Young, but the game is played on the field
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:17 pm to
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What if Joe Montana had gone against the Cowboys instead of Steve Young during the rivalry


Depends on Joe's health and level of play at the time, he enters those games playing at an elite level and continues that, they win (see 88 and 89 playoffs), he enters those games at a weak level (see 85 and 86 playoffs) they lose and probably get embarrassed then there's the aberration of the 87 divisional game against the Vikings where he stunk up the joint, 87 49ers one of the all-time great teams not to win the Super Bowl
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:40 pm to
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You could argue peak young is better than peak Montana.


Thennnnn why only one Super Bowl win as starter?? Not like Young played with bums when he peaked
Posted by Statsattack
Il
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 12:13 am to
92 is one of best teams of all time.

No. If Walsh was there maybe
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35427 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 12:49 am to
Nobody is beating the '92 Cowboys.

Plus, if you watch the America's Game doc on the 1988 Niners, Walsh had worn out his welcome in the locker room and the 1989 season was to show they could win it without him per the player's words.

And they went gangbusters.

The real debate is whether Young did less with more or Montana did more with less.

Young had some loaded teams but standing in his way was one of the best dynasties of all-time.
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 12:50 am
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 2:19 am to
Results would have been the same. They were both system QBs.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29335 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 4:30 am to
Well we should all aspire to be a system qb. Dumb name anyway
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48832 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 5:22 am to
Are you putting Montana on the Cowboys D? Because that's the only way you make a difference in this game.
Posted by Cannon
Shreveport
Member since May 2015
1613 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 6:54 am to
Niners would have went 0-3. Montana was at the very end of his career. And he didn't have Brady's "nutritionist".
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
15995 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 7:02 am to
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Brady's "nutritionist".
are Brady haters now gonna start saying Brady’s on the juice?
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33915 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 7:30 am to
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The difference was the 49ers had 4 turnovers, Young was responsible for a few of them.


The Cowboys scored zero points off those two Young turnovers, one of which came at the end of the game when the 49ers were down by 10 points and in desperation mode. If Young didn’t commit any turnovers, it still wouldn’t have changed the result of the game. Let me give you a stat about Montana and Young that might open your eyes. Young started 13 postseason games for the 49ers. The 49ers allowed more than 24 points in six of those games. Montana started in 23 career postseason games. His defenses allowed more than 24 points in only five of those 23 games.
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
8680 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 8:49 am to
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You could argue peak young is better than peak Montana


What idiot would argue that?
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35427 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 11:43 am to
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Young started 13 postseason games for the 49ers. The 49ers allowed more than 24 points in six of those games. Montana started in 23 career postseason games. His defenses allowed more than 24 points in only five of those 23 games.


Stats lie as usual.

Giving up 24 points between 1980-1988 is way worse than giving up 24 points between 1990-1994.

That stat doesn't remotely prove that Montana had better defenses in the playoffs than Young. You basically stunk in the 90's if you didn't score 24 points...not so for the early to mid-80's.
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 11:46 am
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