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What if a pro player develops an illness that doesn’t effect him in every game?

Posted on 3/22/23 at 8:04 pm
Posted by TackySweater
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 8:04 pm
Ok bear with me. Ryan Clark found out (?) that he had sickle cell when he had a game in Denver. The altitude effected it really badly. I don’t know much about sickle cell. Did they not know about it before and found out about it when the altitude made it really bad?

Anyway. Let’s say Denver has a player they draft or acquire. After a year or two, they develop a disease, like sickle cell, or have the disease identified, and can no longer play in high altitude.

What’s the recourse for the player and team? That player basically can’t play in half the teams games and can’t live there.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 8:07 pm to
They'd trade him somewhere else.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 8:09 pm to
Trade him for pennies on the dollar or cut him. The team has no recourse as they did the exams and backgrounds. Just like when the Giants rescinded the Peter's pick, it was oh well.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 8:11 pm
Posted by VaeVictus
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 8:17 pm to
Ryan Clark has a worse disease, being a woke little b*tch.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 8:27 pm to
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The team has no recourse as they did the exams and backgrounds.


What if it’s something that can go undetectable until it hits? Or something that develops late?
Posted by Ed Osteen
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 8:41 pm to
You trade or release them, its not complicated
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 8:43 pm to
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What if it’s something that can go undetectable until it hits? Or something that develops late?


Kind of works the same way as a severe injury, IMO.
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 8:43 pm to
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What’s the recourse for the player and team? That player basically can’t play in half the teams games and can’t live there.


Trade him to the below sea-level Saints who have a very well known and respected medical staff.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 8:46 pm to
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Kind of works the same way as a severe injury, IMO.


Severe injury means you can’t play football at all.

If it’s something that is only affected in high altitude, you can play for many other teams and play almost full seasons.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11480 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 8:47 pm to
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What if it’s something that can go undetectable until it hits? Or something that develops late?


Just sucks for the team because they Have no bargaining power, due to no fault of their own.
Posted by Bags of Milk
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:21 pm to
Unfortunately that’s on the team to test for before drafting.

High altitude gives them an advantage in hitting balls but this might be the disadvantage.

For reference, usually leagues only provide supplemental draft picks if a player dies suddenly (that I’m aware of) its unfortunately happened twice in the NHL with Alexi Cherpanov and Luc Bourdon
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:23 pm to
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Unfortunately that’s on the team to test for before drafting.

Of course. I get that.

Was just wondering if it was something that they couldn’t detect when they did tests, they didn’t do anything wrong, and didn’t really take a risk on a player if they didn’t know about it.
Posted by Bags of Milk
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:40 pm to
I mean I feel like they could depending on the player/age/illness discovered but it wouldn’t make up for the loss of said player

Would likely be a situational thing
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:55 pm to
Did teams know about Clark’s illness?
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:05 pm to
You can google a list of pro athletes with diabetes
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:08 pm to
If you're using it as a verb, affect. Using it as a noun, effect.

Illness doesn't affect him. Illness had no effect.
Posted by Downeast12
Member since Jun 2022
523 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:01 am to
Wasn’t it just sickle cell trait? I could be wrong but it’s hard to imagine no one knowing he had sickle cell disease.

Sickle cell disease is pretty serious and there’s a bit of a difference between that and sct
Posted by Chipand2Putts
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 6:01 am to
This is correct. He has the trait, not sickle cell disease. It’s a big difference.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 7:53 am to
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This is correct. He has the trait, not sickle cell disease. It’s a big difference.


So having the trait can mean you develop the disease? I’m honestly trying to understand.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 7:56 am to
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Severe injury means you can’t play football at all


True, but it’s similar.

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If it’s something that is only affected in high altitude, you can play for many other teams and play almost full seasons.


Easy to say when it’s a late round pick DB. What if it was a stud QB? This obviously is rare, but the injury risk does highlight why long-term, guaranteed contracts are bad business for QBs like Lamar due to the nature of the NFL. In a violent league with a hard cap and a big roster, guaranteeing such a high percentage of the cap to 1 player—granted, at the most important position—for several years is a terrible risk/reward. Just because the Browns and Cardinals were stupid—and desperate—enough to guarantee Watkins and Murray all that money doesn’t mean the Ravens should do the same thing with Lamar.

Especially since he’s been injury-prone. But even if he wasn’t. He and his camp don’t seem to be able to process this. Offering him $133 million before this season wasn’t really financially responsible. Him thinking he should get $200+ when he’s a year older and coming off another season he wasn’t able to finish due to injury is head-in-the-sand stupid. There’s a reason the perennial losers like the Browns and Cardinals would do something like that, but a well-run organization like the Ravens are balking.

I know NFL players look at the guaranteed contracts that NBA and MLB baseball players get and think they deserve the same. But it’s just not feasible in a violent, contact sport with a hard cap and a 64-man roster compared to the other 2 who have a 12-man and 26-man one, respectively. It sucks, but it is what it is.
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