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Was Oregon State’s first baseball title a major surprise?
Posted on 6/17/19 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 6/17/19 at 11:20 pm
With Michigan’s success, we are entering rare waters. Someone mentioned this being on par with Fresno State. Fresno wasn’t setting the world on fire pre-postseason of 2008, but California is a hotbed for baseball. Pepperdine, CSF, USC, UCLA, Stanford...all championship-winning programs.
When Oregon State won in ‘06, they had established themselves as a damn good team that year, but had little history. As a college baseball fan, I was very surprised to see them knock off a team like UNC with relative ease.
Was it a shock across the national landscape and on here?
When Oregon State won in ‘06, they had established themselves as a damn good team that year, but had little history. As a college baseball fan, I was very surprised to see them knock off a team like UNC with relative ease.
Was it a shock across the national landscape and on here?
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 11:24 pm to TexasTiger08
It was more of a minor assault
ETA: oh the first title
Nevermind
ETA: oh the first title
Nevermind
This post was edited on 6/17/19 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 6/17/19 at 11:31 pm to TexasTiger08
Yes, I think many people thought they would eventually fall to a more established team but they kept on winning.
They were the first "Northern" team to win (even though they are a West Coast team)
They were the first "Northern" team to win (even though they are a West Coast team)
Posted on 6/17/19 at 11:40 pm to ProfFrink
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They were the first "Northern" team to win (even though they are a West Coast team)
Exactly. Then we had a couple year span where we saw Stony Brook, Kent State, and Indiana. Is UM going to be another exception to the rule, or are we seeing a trend of teams investing in baseball outside of the South and West?
Posted on 6/17/19 at 11:59 pm to TexasTiger08
You can't look at it in isolation as a Northern school.
Oregon State like Oregon recruits California like all Pac-12 schools.
Michigan is a bigger surprise because Oregon State played in the Pac frankly and had Cali players and had to meet the level of their Conference competition which has won the most CWS titles.
Michigan is probably not recruiting the West or South to any degree Oregon State recruits Cali just like in football.
The bigger surprise was Oregon State's rise under Erickson when the Beavers had been a dumpster fire for all of their history.
Being in the Pac and facing that stiff competition and history, getting California recruits, etc. It's not a leap to believe that a NW school could become a baseball powerhouse.
Oregon State like Oregon recruits California like all Pac-12 schools.
Michigan is a bigger surprise because Oregon State played in the Pac frankly and had Cali players and had to meet the level of their Conference competition which has won the most CWS titles.
Michigan is probably not recruiting the West or South to any degree Oregon State recruits Cali just like in football.
The bigger surprise was Oregon State's rise under Erickson when the Beavers had been a dumpster fire for all of their history.
Being in the Pac and facing that stiff competition and history, getting California recruits, etc. It's not a leap to believe that a NW school could become a baseball powerhouse.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:05 am to TexasTiger08
I believe their second title was a much bigger surprise.
They made the CWS in 2005 as the #8 national seed. Made it again in 2006 as the #14 national seed and ultimately won it.
In 2007, they were a 3 seed in the Virginia regional, so winning it all was quite a stretch. They repeated nonetheless.
They made the CWS in 2005 as the #8 national seed. Made it again in 2006 as the #14 national seed and ultimately won it.
In 2007, they were a 3 seed in the Virginia regional, so winning it all was quite a stretch. They repeated nonetheless.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:26 am to TexasTiger08
I know Fresno is a western program, but that run for the title is and was unprecedented.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:42 am to slackster
The ‘07 title was a surprise in terms of Oregon State being a 3 seed in the regional. Wasn’t this also the case with UVA when they knocked off Vandy?
I guess this suggests that Washington’s CWS run last year wasn’t that outlandish.
I guess this suggests that Washington’s CWS run last year wasn’t that outlandish.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 1:04 am to TexasTiger08
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With Michigan’s success, we are entering rare waters.
Michigan is the fourth winningest program in NCAA Division I baseball history, trailing only Fordham, Texas and USC.
The Wolverines have made the College World Series eight times, winning two national championships in 1953 and 1962.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 1:06 am to AlonsoWDC
If Fresno had made the NCAA basketball tournament, they would have been a 14-16 seed. Their RPI was 50, they had a 47-31 record and were 4-6 against teams ranked 51-100 in RPI.
And they didn't win it cheaply. They beat Rice 17-5, North Carolina in 3 and then Georgia in 3...and the two losses they had were by 1 run each...while their wins were mostly blowouts in the CWS. They deserved that title, just dominated the competition. They outscored them 61-29.
And they didn't win it cheaply. They beat Rice 17-5, North Carolina in 3 and then Georgia in 3...and the two losses they had were by 1 run each...while their wins were mostly blowouts in the CWS. They deserved that title, just dominated the competition. They outscored them 61-29.
This post was edited on 6/18/19 at 1:10 am
Posted on 6/18/19 at 2:15 am to weadjust
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The Wolverines have made the College World Series eight times, winning two national championships in 1953 and 1962.
I’m well aware of this. That’s not at all what I’m asking. The game has changed a bit since those titles, just refer to USC.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 6:47 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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And they didn't win it cheaply
Rolling their bats is kind of cheap.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 7:43 am to TexasTiger08
Let's be honest. The conference networks changed the game in college baseball. Michigan might be northern but they have history and B1G network money.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:17 am to TexasTiger08
They had a great team; some 9 guys drafted that year.
Didn't hurt having Jacoby Ellsbury and Darwin Barney, both solid MLB players.
Didn't hurt having Jacoby Ellsbury and Darwin Barney, both solid MLB players.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:30 am to AlonsoWDC
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I know Fresno is a western program, but that run for the title is and was unprecedented.
They were something like top 15 in the preseason and underperformed all year.
People only remember the 4 seed and nothing else about that team. They weren't a bunch of scrubs, they just didn't play up to their talent in the regular season.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:37 am to chalmetteowl
Still doesnt help with cold weather and 11.7 scholarships.
The Big 10 is a descent baseball conference. They arent top tier like they are in other sports. I would compare them to the Big East in basketball maybe. There always seems to be at least one really good team every year. Indiana and Illinois have both been to the CWS in the past few years, and Nebraska and Michigan are usually descent programs, and even Maryland has a pretty good team every now and then.
The Big 10 is a descent baseball conference. They arent top tier like they are in other sports. I would compare them to the Big East in basketball maybe. There always seems to be at least one really good team every year. Indiana and Illinois have both been to the CWS in the past few years, and Nebraska and Michigan are usually descent programs, and even Maryland has a pretty good team every now and then.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:16 am to ProfFrink
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West Coast team
FWIW, Corvallis is at almost exactly the same latitude as Minneapolis.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:19 am to 995webmaster
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FWIW, Corvallis is at almost exactly the same latitude as Minneapolis.
Are you familiar with the Pacific Ocean?
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:20 am to ProjectP2294
Last year was a bigger surprise 
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:28 am to TexasTiger08
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Was Oregon State’s first baseball title a major surprise?
Not really. In a sense it was a lot like last year where they had a really good team, but the year before they were actually probably better. It was a surprise in that they came out of the losers bracket.
The year after was a much bigger surprise.
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