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re: TUF 10: Season Long Thread

Posted on 9/24/09 at 8:13 am to
Posted by skullhawk
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 8:13 am to
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That had to rank right up there with one of the worst fights in TUF history.


I thought the first episode's fight was worse than this one. The cut was brutal but that was all that happened. This fight had a few exchanges and some submission attempts.
With a little cardio, Shivers would have won that fight.

Here's hoping Kimbo and Nelson can put on a show next week. I've seen people on Sherdog post who won this fight but they have not said whether or not it was a good fight.
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 8:17 am to
So far-

2 fights

4 fighters

3 of them are garbage
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 8:19 am to
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Because he looked like he was about to die. I really thought you could make an argument for him for both rounds but he looked dead and that won't win over many judges.



But so did McSweeney
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 8:19 am to
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knew they were going to call Kimbo the second they showed the "Fight Announcement" title at the very end of the episode.


+1
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 8:30 am to
And what is up with McSweeney getting into Rampage's face?


After his performance last night, he should probably keep his mouth shut
This post was edited on 9/24/09 at 8:31 am
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 8:38 am to
Dude was pulling a Kalib Starnes at times during his fight, eeks out a questionable decision against a fighter that was so gassed he couldn't stand up straight and now thinks he has enough credit to pop off on Page.

He looks like he can make 205. Lorenzo should toss him to Page too make up after filming is wrapped.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 8:45 am to
If last night is any indication, I think McSweeney is probably going to gas toward the end of that argument with Rampage
Posted by LSUgrasshopper
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 9:01 am to
quote:

So far-

2 fights

4 fighters

3 of them are garbage


Just 3? All 4 of them were garbage.

And how the hell did Shivers lose the first round? I though he won both. I think no one wanted to see a round 3. Just awful.

That was Rashad's first choice????? holy crap these guys suck.
Posted by LSUgrasshopper
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 9:03 am to
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He was bent over grabbing his knees in the 2nd and Rashad's boy couldn't even capitalize on that.


Because he was also bent over grabbing his knees... pathetic.
Posted by Pahnew
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 9:04 am to
quote:

And what is up with McSweeney getting into Rampage's face?

After his performance last night, he should probably keep his mouth shut


agree.

quote:

If last night is any indication, I think McSweeney is probably going to gas toward the end of that argument with Rampage





The guys in the second fight looked like they was gonna die on the spot. I was more worried about their life then the guy bleeding like crazy in the first fight.
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 9:05 am to
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Just 3? All 4 of them were garbage.


I was feeling generous because the wrestler at least has a good base.

quote:

And how the hell did Shivers lose the first round? I though he won both. I think no one wanted to see a round 3. Just awful.

That was Rashad's first choice????? holy crap these guys suck.


I agree with all of that.

Like someone said, Shivers likely lost based on perception due to not being able to stand erect after either round.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 9:12 am to
I had Shivers winning both rounds personally. He got takedowns in a fight that didn't have much of anything else other then some leg kicks. I agree Shivers mainly lost due to the fact he was about to throw up in the cage at any second. McSweeny looked like a big pussy when he wouldn't go after Wes at the end there. Rashad was going nuts trying to get him to go after him. McSweeny was only Rashad's first pick because he is in the Greg Jackson camp with him. I don't think that guy would have been anywhere near the first pick otherwise. The first two guys might be a bit better then we think. Abe was obviously not experienced on the ground and we didn't get to see him standing up at all. The wrestler didn't have to do anything else so he didn't. (they obviously both might suck arse, but really hard to tell from that fight, other then Abe has nothing on the ground really)
Posted by tigerclaws15
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 9:35 am to
I thought Shivers won the fight as well. All he had to do was at least look like he could fight. I thought he was going to lay down during the fight. I think he would have quit if it went to a 3rd round. I hope Kimbo whoops big countrys arse. Kimbo seems humble on this show. I have respect for any man who goes from living on the streets to making good money and making a better life for himself.
Posted by The Ramp
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 9:58 am to
even though there was no way shivers lost that fight, i was just glad it was over. worse than the first one. i foresee roy and kimbo gassing as well early in the second. neither is known for cardio. i finally got my roommate to watch and this fight may have been his last dammit. i agree with the earlier poster, 2 bad fights and 4 bad fighters.

im starting to hate rashad less every show. he is a good coach and handles his fighters very well. or maybe i'm mad a page right now for quitting fighting.
This post was edited on 9/24/09 at 9:59 am
Posted by SmackDaniels
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 10:05 am to
quote:

1)Nelson is pretty well rounded


That's for sure.

Speedy,

No idea how he won that first round. Rampage is terrible at this, but the luck just does not fall his way either.
Yea I agree. I have never seen them announce a fight at the end of an episode. It's smart because EVERYONE will talk about this all week.


OK what did Albo Syn say for it to get blocked? That's a first on a MMA thread.
Posted by kballa6
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 10:40 am to
Pathetic fight last night. I finally got my fiancee' to watch an episode and the entire team she is complaining because the fight sucked. She does want to see Kimbo fight next week though.
Posted by LSUgrasshopper
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2006
5282 posts
Posted on 9/24/09 at 10:51 am to
If Kimbo loses and it's not exciting this season is over. No one will be watching.
Posted by skullhawk
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 11:15 am to
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If Kimbo loses and it's not exciting this season is over. No one will be watching.


There has to be more Kimbo in this season or it is over. Why would they hype Kimbo so much and ignore the other fighters if he is one and done?
I have heard contradictory rumors in regards to the fight next Wednesday.

We don't even know the other fighters in the house. All the show has been so far is Rashad/Rampage (useless now), Kimbo, and the two guys fighting at the end of the episode.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 11:27 am to
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even though there was no way shivers lost that fight, i was just glad it was over.


This. I was just guessing earlier as to why they gave it to McCardio. It was because Shivers looked more like he was about to keel over and pass out I guess.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20996 posts
Posted on 9/24/09 at 11:28 am to
And didn't Rashad say that this guy's stand up was 2nd to none in the house? I hope to God that's not correct.
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