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re: Tournament Baseball is a scam
Posted on 12/20/10 at 3:11 pm to nevilletiger79
Posted on 12/20/10 at 3:11 pm to nevilletiger79
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watching johnny play on weekends as a FAMILY is better than mom out shopping dad out playing golf or watching tv sister at the mall and johnny running roads getting into trouble. no one else has memtioned that travel ball keeps the kids off the streets and getting into trouble they are with their friends sharing a common interest along with their family. and ric a partial scholarship is better than nothing. i agree kids have to study but every little bit helps and travel ball isnt always about college but its a major goal for a lot of the kids
There are other ways that a family can spend time together...
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Posted on 12/20/10 at 3:19 pm to lctiger
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for the travel ball haters I offer this. If you have a kid that excels in math should the child stay in a class where he sits bored as he already knows everything that the teacher is teaching or take a higher level course where he/she is with other students of the same caliber.
Not many parents live their academic lives vicariously through their children. Also, many schools will allow your kid to take a higher level math class if he's that talented, so you're not doing all sorts of other stuff. Bad analogy.
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As a parent, as my kid grows I want to be able to say that I did everyhting I could to give them the opportunity for success in whatever they choose to do. If it winds up that they don't make a hs or college team then they will be a ringer for their company softball team.
I highlighted the key part of this statement. Assist your kids in what THEY want to do, not what we want them to do.
Posted on 12/20/10 at 3:47 pm to Sophandros
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Not many parents live their academic lives vicariously through their children. Also, many schools will allow your kid to take a higher level math class if he's that talented, so you're not doing all sorts of other stuff. Bad analogy.
how is it a bad analogy. I'm just as proud of my kid when he gets the award for highest math score as I am when he bangs one over the fence and I have to decide if he takes the higher level math class the school offers. People seem to imply that playing travel ball causes a kid to burn out, well taking a higher level class at a young age requires a lot more work on the kids part just the same.
Posted on 12/20/10 at 3:56 pm to lctiger
Anecdote vs reality...
Posted on 12/20/10 at 4:25 pm to lctiger
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Tournament Baseball is a scam
for the travel ball haters I offer this. If you have a kid that excels in math should the child stay in a class where he sits bored as he already knows everything that the teacher is teaching or take a higher level course where he/she is with other students of the same caliber.
As a parent, as my kid grows I want to be able to say that I did everyhting I could to give them the opportunity for success in whatever they choose to do. If it winds up that they don't make a hs or college team then they will be a ringer for their company softball team.
well said doc
Posted on 12/20/10 at 4:30 pm to Sophandros
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Anecdote vs reality...
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Better analogy. If you had the means, would you send your kid to a public school in NOLA or private? What's the difference? I see it as parents trying to give their kids the best chance to succeed.
Posted on 12/20/10 at 4:31 pm to Sophandros
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Not many parents live their academic lives vicariously through their children.
Sure are a ton of private schools in South LA. Why don't the parents just send their kids to free public school?
Posted on 12/20/10 at 4:49 pm to mametoo
I just dont see how ANY baseball can be viewed as a bad thing.
Posted on 12/20/10 at 4:53 pm to JG77056
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It's not just something I'm making up, you can go back and look at previous draft classes and see that the number of international players is growing, and since there's the same number of draft slots that can only mean fewer homegrown players are being drafted.
that's all true but it still makes barely a difference at all and I have no problems with it. I have no problem with there being lots more international competition, thought it is weird when the clubhouse is 50% spanish.
The draft should be shortened, there should be less international signings, and the minor leagues should be reduced.
Posted on 12/20/10 at 4:54 pm to lsu480
and if you think little johnny is playing only at girard playground.. making all stars every year is gonna beat out the travel ball players when he gets to carrolton and banks.. you gonna be in for a shock
Posted on 12/20/10 at 7:51 pm to choupiquesushi
Thank goodness I coach travel softball, we don't have these kinda problems 
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I think its perfectly alright to TEACH youngsters at an early age the correct fundamentals and basic strategies of ball. I also believe it's unfair to DEMAND or BULLY 9 year olds to perform perfectly, or to demean them when they fail to perform.
Beyond that, I found that young athletes really begin to accelerate their development when they learn how to compete and are also willing to practice on their own or with other kids.
You can't force a kid to want to work his or her way to success, you CAN help them enjoy the process and look forward to the outcome that they'll want to get there themselves.
. I think its perfectly alright to TEACH youngsters at an early age the correct fundamentals and basic strategies of ball. I also believe it's unfair to DEMAND or BULLY 9 year olds to perform perfectly, or to demean them when they fail to perform.
Beyond that, I found that young athletes really begin to accelerate their development when they learn how to compete and are also willing to practice on their own or with other kids.
You can't force a kid to want to work his or her way to success, you CAN help them enjoy the process and look forward to the outcome that they'll want to get there themselves.
This post was edited on 12/20/10 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 12/20/10 at 7:56 pm to choupiquesushi
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and if you think little johnny is playing only at girard playground.. making all stars every year is gonna beat out the travel ball players when he gets to carrolton and banks.. you gonna be in for a shock
WTF does this even mean and why did you address it to me?
Posted on 12/20/10 at 8:02 pm to lsu480
You know where kids really develop a love of the game? In the neighbor's yard, or the lot by the church, where they play with no grownups in site.
In my neighborhood, you'll find boys and girls playing together, and kids ages 5 to 13, with cardboard bases and maybe a t-shirt on the ground for the pitching rubber. And if they're playing tape ball, there's a good chance it's peg ball.
The older kids teach the younger kids, and then when the younger kids get a few years on them they teach a whole new crop of youngsters.
In my neighborhood, you'll find boys and girls playing together, and kids ages 5 to 13, with cardboard bases and maybe a t-shirt on the ground for the pitching rubber. And if they're playing tape ball, there's a good chance it's peg ball.
The older kids teach the younger kids, and then when the younger kids get a few years on them they teach a whole new crop of youngsters.
Posted on 12/20/10 at 8:07 pm to lsu480
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WTF does this even mean and why did you address it to me?
Girard- local playground
carrolton and banks- jesuit HS
he is saying if you think that just playing in the summer at the playground is going to get you a spot on a good team, you are wrong.
i dont really agree. There isnt much travel ball played in NOLA. Most kids like to play other sports in the baseball offseason. A few fall leagues here and there, but mostly for fun.
occasionaly you'll have you baseball-crazed kid who only wants to play baseball, but those are rare.
This post was edited on 12/20/10 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 12/20/10 at 8:21 pm to WMTigerFAN
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In my neighborhood, you'll find boys and girls playing together, and kids ages 5 to 13, with cardboard bases and maybe a t-shirt on the ground for the pitching rubber. And if they're playing tape ball, there's a good chance it's peg ball.
are you posting from 1955?
Posted on 12/20/10 at 8:27 pm to LfcSU3520
are you posting from 1955?
Nope. Kids don't do that in your neighborhood? You should seem them playing "touch" football or full contact hoops. As long as the grownups stay out of the picture, they do great. Even if someone gets banged up, they sniffle a while on the sidelines, then get right back in there.
Like I mentioned earlier, I am one of those travel ball coaches, and I love the fact my daughter has no problem getting out there and mixing it up. Kids can learn a lot about competing when its just kids. You should hear the trash talk!
Nope. Kids don't do that in your neighborhood? You should seem them playing "touch" football or full contact hoops. As long as the grownups stay out of the picture, they do great. Even if someone gets banged up, they sniffle a while on the sidelines, then get right back in there.
Like I mentioned earlier, I am one of those travel ball coaches, and I love the fact my daughter has no problem getting out there and mixing it up. Kids can learn a lot about competing when its just kids. You should hear the trash talk!
This post was edited on 12/20/10 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 12/20/10 at 8:43 pm to LfcSU3520
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are you posting from 1955?
Kinda...West Monroe, LA.
You can barely walk at the local Dixie league without running into kids playing cup ball with a wadded up Coke cup. Kids up and down the streets playing ball with taped up wiffle ball bats and always pass 2-3 football games in front yards on my way to work in the fall.
Posted on 12/20/10 at 8:45 pm to WMTigerFAN
i did that as a kid. i had equipment though
i think throwing a ball against the wall developed my hand/eye coordination better than anything. And it came in handy in all sports.
i think throwing a ball against the wall developed my hand/eye coordination better than anything. And it came in handy in all sports.
Posted on 12/20/10 at 8:58 pm to Lester Earl
Very very few of the players on top teams did not play travel
Posted on 12/20/10 at 9:01 pm to Lester Earl
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i think throwing a ball against the wall developed my hand/eye coordination better than anything.
Literally did this every day during the summer for atleast 4-5 hours. Pop worked graveyard so I was forced outside from 8am until around 5pm.
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