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re: This head coach for Chargers should be fired immediately
Posted on 1/9/22 at 11:16 pm to JohnnyRebel
Posted on 1/9/22 at 11:16 pm to JohnnyRebel
there is literally no defense for that timeout
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Posted on 1/9/22 at 11:26 pm to Double Oh
quote:
I want to make it a one score game
Well that’s short sighted and dumb. You want to win the game. Not just “make it a one score game at a given time”
They HAD to go for two at some point. Two scenarios. Both say they miss the 2 point.
A) make it a 1 score game down 8 after kicking PAT when down 15. They put together a late drive and score with 4 seconds. The two point conversion either wins them or loses them the game. They miss it and lose.
B) they go for two with 4 minutes left. They miss now. Now they are down 9. But they have 4 minutes left to figure it out. They get the ball back kick a quick field goal to go down 6 then with 45 seconds left they get to kick an inside with a chance to recover and try and score again. To win.
Unlikely that they win scenario B with the initial failed 2pt conversion but there is still a chance. Scenario A gives them no chance of winning with a missed 2 pt conversion. But hey at least they made it a 1 score game with 4 minutes left huh.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 11:38 pm to GatorReb
quote:
The two point conversion either wins them or loses them the game. They miss it and lose.
One point if they are down 8 a 2pt either tied or loses, not wins or loses
Posted on 1/9/22 at 11:47 pm to GatorReb
quote:
A) make it a 1 score game down 8 after kicking PAT when down 15. They put together a late drive and score with 4 seconds. The two point conversion either wins them or loses them the game. They miss it and lose.
B) they go for two with 4 minutes left. They miss now. Now they are down 9. But they have 4 minutes left to figure it out. They get the ball back kick a quick field goal to go down 6 then with 45 seconds left they get to kick an inside with a chance to recover and try and score again. To win.
Unlikely that they win scenario B with the initial failed 2pt conversion but there is still a chance. Scenario A gives them no chance of winning with a missed 2 pt conversion. But hey at least they made it a 1 score game with 4 minutes left huh.
Scenario B no shot to win with the missed 2 pt conversion absolutely no shot
Scenario A they dont win the game if they make the 2 pt conversion down 8 but guess what they tied and now they have a chance to win it in OT. At least you have a chance. You have no chance in Scenario B
Posted on 1/10/22 at 12:01 am to Double Oh
quote:
Terrible coaching
Why the Chargers weren't running a goal line defense on that 3rd down play is astonishing.
Everyone knew the Raiders were just going to run the ball.
And be content with a tie.
Eta, autocorrect
This post was edited on 1/10/22 at 1:25 am
Posted on 1/10/22 at 12:02 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:I would’ve been more astonished if the chiefs had brought in any defense there
Why the Chiefs weren't running a goal line defense on that 3rd down play is astonishing
This post was edited on 1/10/22 at 12:03 am
Posted on 1/10/22 at 12:13 am to Double Oh
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Scenario B no shot to win with the missed 2 pt conversion absolutely no shot Scenario A they dont win the game if they make the 2 pt conversion down 8 but guess what they tied and now they have a chance to win it in OT. At least you have a chance. You have no chance in Scenario B
Are you really thus stupid?
Which scenario is less likely. Down 9 with 4 minutes left and scoring twice. I or down 8 with 30 seconds left, scoring a TD and missing the 2pt conversion?
In one scenario you have a chance a small chance but not zero in the other you have no shot
This post was edited on 1/10/22 at 9:53 am
Posted on 1/10/22 at 7:03 am to Double Oh
quote:The Chargers scored with zero seconds left, can you explain why how they can win if they missed the 2pt conversion with zero seconds left?
Scenario B no shot to win with the missed 2 pt conversion absolutely no shot
quote:You have it backwards.
Scenario A they dont win the game if they make the 2 pt conversion down 8 but guess what they tied and now they have a chance to win it in OT. At least you have a chance. You have no chance in Scenario B
Posted on 1/10/22 at 7:22 am to Double Oh
The last timeout called by the chargers was just unexplainable.
That timeout most likely cost his team a shot in the playoffs.
That timeout most likely cost his team a shot in the playoffs.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 8:38 am to Double Oh
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And what about going for it on 4th and 1 inside his own 20 in the 3rd qtr?
bill belichek did it vs peyton and indianopolis colts. bill lost that one too.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 9:43 am to Buckeye Fan 19
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Whether you go for it after the first touchdown or the second, you have to go 1-for-1 on the two-point conversion either way. Going for it after the first is the better idea, because if you go 0-for-1 instead of 1-for-1, and you've gained that knowledge after the first TD, you can strategize the rest of the game accordingly.
Time does play a factor because I'm not sure analytics can factor in pressure on the other team. Pressure effects play...I feel much better up two scores with 4 minutes than up one score.
If there is 10 minutes left then by all means go for 2. I don't think it is the slam dunk everyone thinks it is.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 9:52 am to Double Oh
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And what about going for it on 4th and 1 inside his own 20 in the 3rd qtr?
It was stupid. He gave them points basically
Posted on 1/10/22 at 9:56 am to Double Oh
I thought the OP was trolling.
After reading thread, please never talk situational football decisions ever again, k?!
After reading thread, please never talk situational football decisions ever again, k?!
Posted on 1/10/22 at 10:22 am to Double Oh
quote:
Don’t you want to make it a one score game with 4 mins left or a 2 score game with 4 mins left?
talk about being world class stupid, thats you
on what planet does making the 2 point play thart gets tyou to a 9 point lead, rather then a 10 point lead, ever get you to being one score difference. tell us where is this one score that gets you 9 points?
Posted on 1/10/22 at 10:25 am to Double Oh
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You might not get the ball back twice with 4 mins left then what?
Oh I guess we should of kicked the XP to make it a 8 pt game
except it makes it a 9 point game not 8 you idiot
some of you idiots cant even do basic math
OP point is valid on the 2 pointer, its a 10 point lead or 9 point lead either way so the 2 point play was a stupid risk with zero possible reward
Posted on 1/10/22 at 10:26 am to Double Oh
Their coach is aggressive and different. Sometimes it works, sometimes id does not.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 10:32 am to keakar
quote:I've pointed out in this thread(and every other thread on this topic lol) but the issue is people compare NOT making the 2pt conversion going for it the 1st time to either making it having the chance to make it the 2nd time.
on what planet does making the 2 point play thart gets tyou to a 9 point lead, rather then a 10 point lead, ever get you to being one score difference. tell us where is this one score that gets you 9 points?
That's their major mistake. You either compare making in both scenarios or missing in both scenarios, anything else is pointless.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 10:38 am to keakar
quote:
xcept it makes it a 9 point game not 8 you idiot
some of you idiots cant even do basic math
OP point is valid on the 2 pointer, its a 10 point lead or 9 point lead either way so the 2 point play was a stupid risk with zero possible reward
Are u fukin stupid or retarded or both? Its a 15 pt lead they score and kick XP its a 8 pt game if they go for 2 and miss it its a 9 pt game. Would you rather have a 8 pt game or 9 pt game if your the team thats behind? If you say a 9 pt game your dumber than a box of rocks
Posted on 1/10/22 at 10:38 am to OvertheDwayneBowe
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Probability is difficult to understand, and people think they are smarter than they really are.
That's the simple answer.
yes and explains td inability to see polling data graphically illustrated by 538 that thousands of iterations of the model had trump beating Clinton.
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