re: The Unofficial 2017 Wimbledon Thread

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Still don't know how Andy Murray got included in a group along with the other 3.

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Me either, I'll preface this with the fact that I really don't like Murray. Almost would say I'm a hater.

He isn't close to those 3 and it's a sham he is included with them. However, that was started many years back, at that time Djokovic didn't have his 10+, neither did Nadal. They were the 4 best by far at the time the big 4 was branded. Over the years the big 3 pulled way ahead by winning majors, Murray not so much. Looking back it's easy to see he isn't their same level but he's good, very good but not GOAT talk like Fed or Nadal.

Yeah, Fed does not have a single point to defend the rest of the year. I think Rafa is probably in the same spot. I'm guessing they will draw on the summer hard courts for points, unless one of them skips Montreal or Cincy. YE #1 will probably come down to the post USO if one of them wants it enough.

I think Cilic can take out Fed. But, please god, don't give me a Cilic/Berd final. I doubt I'd tune in, other than to see Ester.

I need you or littlebilly to tell me why this Solinco Hyper G makes Sam so good.

I am confirmed for going to Cincy on Friday night and Saturday afternoon.

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need you or littlebilly to tell me why this Solinco Hyper G makes Sam so good. 

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Looks like it's just another stiff as a board poly which most pros and top juniors are using. Basically no power and tons of spin. Terrible choice of string for a recreational player imo. Would destroy the arm of a mere mortal. The player has to generate just about all the power himself. But if youre a stud ATP player like Querrey it allows you to hit the shite out of the ball and generate some spin to keep the ball in play. Fed has the purest strokes in tennis imo and he is one of the few remaining pros using natural gut in his mains. Much better for power and comfort. But his form is like Tom Seavers pitching....perfect. so he doesn't need help keeping the ball in play.

Eta more and more players are stringing full bed of poly at very low tensions to help offset the lack of power and harshness on the arm

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If the match doesn't finish, the sport books would count that as a NO play and just refund your money.


Some books vary though.

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No sir. If the first set gets finished, the match is a play for a bet on the winner. A totals play on games would be a no play, and I think a games spread would be a no play as well.

So, I've been super busy today and have watched zero tennis. What the hell happened in the Slamming Sammy Q match? Double breadstick to close out? Who saw that coming? Is there a backstory?

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Looks like it's just another stiff as a board poly which most pros and top juniors are using. Basically no power and tons of spin. Terrible choice of string for a recreational player imo. Would destroy the arm of a mere mortal. The player has to generate just about all the power himself

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I would respectfully disagree with you regarding the Hyper G. In my estimation, it is one of the more lively polys out there (especially in Solinco's lineup). Plenty of good rec players have no problem generating enough racquet head speed to make this string behave as it is designed to. But you still have to have the right swing path to generate spin with this or any other poly, though it does impart more spin than a multifilament string or syn gut, all other things being equal. I string many racquets with it for competitive juniors and rec players, myself included. Not right for every player though, people that play more of a finesse game, or or just out there bunting around it don't need it and probably would never know to ask for it.

I generally play with the 16L version (1.25) and I find that the stuff breaks almost as soon as it goes dead, which is very desirable in a poly string. It is also less expensive than Luxilon, but easily comparable in quality. I use it in a Babolat Pure Strike 16x19 (the new white/grey/orange frame) and string it at 50lbs. I find it is a nice match for that frame. Not the best choice to use in a hybrid setup with natural gut because it is shaped and does have a fairly sharp edge and will shred natural gut fairly quickly.

Solinco is an excellent company and has a very strong presence in junior tennis, and is gaining quite a foothold in the ATP.

I know Solinco is popular right now. Hyper G must generate more power than Tour Bite (also made by Solinco) then. I had a racket strung with Tour Bite at 55. It bothered my arm and didn't have much power. I sure was able to load up on top spin though. It is still my opinion that poly is not the best string choice for recreational players. It is more suited for competitive players....you have to have good racket head speed as you say.

Have you ever tried Wilson NXT? Even more comfortable but unfortunately even less durable as well. Fwiw I play with Babolat VS Natural gut in the mains and Babolat RPM Blast in the crosses.

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play with dad strings for like years? 

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You're right in general poly wont break but to play with the same strings for years? Come on now Vibe that is just ridiculous.

Eta to answer your question the performance of the strings would go to shite.

LB - tour bite is lower powered than Hyper G and definitely stiffer - I really only like tour bite in 18 gauge or finer (believe it or not they have a 20 ga - 105 - that is super on spin and has good power, but I can rarely get more than 6 or so hours of hitting before it breaks on me.

I can tell when poly goes dead because balls start to spray a bit, and feel is more sterile, most break for me at or around that time - but I usually use thinner gauge strings - 16L, 17 or 18.

RPM Blast is a relatively stiff poly, but if you have the gut in the mains, the Nat Gut is giving you the predominant feel. If I use a hybrid setup with natural gut, I generally will go with the NG in the mains and Luxilon ALU power feel in the X's. As I mentioned earlier, I prefer round polys to cross with nat gut. It is a very comfortable and powerful, setup with plenty of access to spin. I've hit that in the RF autograph frame, very nice combo.

I don't care for multifilament strings, but NXT is a good one. Solinco X-natural is a less expensive alternative to Wilson NXT/Technifibre NRG2/X-One Bi-phase. I will cross that with a poly for people that ask for a hybrid but don't want to spring for nat gut, though honestly I feel that if you are putting it in the crosses, might as well save a few bucks and use a quality synthetic gut like Prince original or Kirschbaum pro.

Natural Gut in a full bed setup is something every serious player should have the pleasure to play with at some point in time. It's as arm friendly as it gets and no slouch on spin, and power to burn. Really requires TLC (especially in the South), but plays perfectly right up untli it breaks.