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re: The Texans asking price for a Watson trade is...
Posted on 1/16/21 at 12:36 pm to LSU-MNCBABY
Posted on 1/16/21 at 12:36 pm to LSU-MNCBABY
quote:
Hill Thomas 2 firsts how would they turn that down
Hill
2 1's 2 2's a 3 AND Thomas is more like it
Posted on 1/16/21 at 12:43 pm to H-Town Tiger
That’s still to much. Why get rid of Thomas to bring Watson in......
Posted on 1/16/21 at 12:48 pm to dukke v
QBs are significantly more important than WRs.
Offensive hierarchy:
QB
OL
RB
WR
TE
With the popularity of two tight ends on the rise again, TE may well pass up WR.
Offensive hierarchy:
QB
OL
RB
WR
TE
With the popularity of two tight ends on the rise again, TE may well pass up WR.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 12:49 pm to TheeRealCarolina
Are you even serious putting RB in front of WR in today’s game???????
You just proved how little you know.....
You just proved how little you know.....
Posted on 1/16/21 at 1:11 pm to dukke v
quote:
Why get rid of Thomas to bring Watson in
QB is way more important. I like Thomas but the Saints were fine without him this year but that was just a suggestion, you could add more picks or if there's another player, but certainly not Taysom t he walking turnover Hill
Posted on 1/16/21 at 1:14 pm to dukke v
quote:
You just proved how little you know.....
You had the the gumption to type this out to someone on this site other than wheelchair boy or Boom. How many Budweisers have you had today?
Posted on 1/16/21 at 1:18 pm to dukke v
quote:
Are you even serious putting RB in front of WR in today’s game???????
You just proved how little you know.....
seriously i didn't it was possible to value his views any less and he totally proves me wrong
This post was edited on 1/16/21 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 1/16/21 at 1:29 pm to H-Town Tiger
What you trying to say duck nuts.......
Posted on 1/16/21 at 1:57 pm to dukke v
That TRC doesn't know what he's talking about
I mean ranking RB as more important than WR today
as for the Saints giving up too many picks, keep in mind the Saints picks the next couple of years are likely to be in the mid to high 20s at best anyway
I mean ranking RB as more important than WR today
as for the Saints giving up too many picks, keep in mind the Saints picks the next couple of years are likely to be in the mid to high 20s at best anyway
This post was edited on 1/16/21 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 1/16/21 at 2:19 pm to NawlinsTiger9
quote:
having a top 5 QB for the next 6-9 years is worth it, IMO
Dan Marino was a top 5 QB almost his entire 17 year career and top 3 for 11 of his first 14 seasons. He only got the Dolphins to one Super Bowl and they didn’t have to give up anything to get him. A top 5 QB is useless with a depleted roster. Joe Theismann, Jim Plunkett, Jim McMahon, Phil Simms, Doug Williams and Jeff Hostetler were winning Super Bowls while Marino was setting every significant NFL passing record with no running game and an average defense.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 2:52 pm to LSU82BILL
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an Marino was a top 5 QB almost his entire 17 year career and top 3 for 11 of his first 14 seasons. He only got the Dolphins to one Super Bowl and they didn’t have to give up anything to get him. A top 5 QB is useless with a depleted roster. Joe Theismann, Jim Plunkett, Jim McMahon, Phil Simms, Doug Williams and Jeff Hostetler were winning Super Bowls while Marino was setting every significant NFL passing record with no running game and an average defense.
Hey Rip Van Winkle, the league has changed a lot in the last 30 years
The Rams gave up 2 1's 2 2's and a 3 for Goff in 2016 and their depleted roster got to a SB. And Goff was unproven and hasn't panned out. The Saints have a SB caliber roster as it is
Posted on 1/16/21 at 3:44 pm to H-Town Tiger
How many great rbs are there? Maybe a dozen. How many great wrs are there? 30-40 at least.
This whole notion that rbs are a dime a dozen while pretending that receivers are irreplaceable is silly. The Vikings lost a number one receiver and got pert near equal production from a rookie. Steelers lost an All-Pro receiver and it had no effect on their passing game. Texans lost a All-Pro receiver and it had no effect on their passing game.
Quality receivers are a dime a dozen. Quality backs? Not so much. Look at who is left in the playoffs this year. 6 of the 8 have top ten backfields and of the other 2, one has a top 3 QB who runs the ball effectively and the last has the number one defense in football with two of the consensus top 10 defensive players in the NFL, probably top 5.
This whole notion that rbs are a dime a dozen while pretending that receivers are irreplaceable is silly. The Vikings lost a number one receiver and got pert near equal production from a rookie. Steelers lost an All-Pro receiver and it had no effect on their passing game. Texans lost a All-Pro receiver and it had no effect on their passing game.
Quality receivers are a dime a dozen. Quality backs? Not so much. Look at who is left in the playoffs this year. 6 of the 8 have top ten backfields and of the other 2, one has a top 3 QB who runs the ball effectively and the last has the number one defense in football with two of the consensus top 10 defensive players in the NFL, probably top 5.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 3:49 pm to TheeRealCarolina
quote:
How many great rbs are there? Maybe a dozen. How many great wrs are there? 30-40 at least.
You can't be serious with this
Posted on 1/16/21 at 3:54 pm to TheeRealCarolina
quote:ok
Texans lost a All-Pro receiver and it had no effect on their passing game.
you're always trashing Watson
now you point out losing Nuke had no negative effect
yet by the numbers and according to every expert, he has a great 2020 season
just being contrary isn't clever
Posted on 1/16/21 at 4:16 pm to TheeRealCarolina
quote:
How many great rbs are there? Maybe a dozen. How many great wrs are there? 30-40 at least
This whole notion that rbs are a dime a dozen while pretending that receivers are irreplaceable is silly.
I’m not surprised that you would think this way since it is completely missing the point. It’s not about scarcity it’s the value of the position. Look at the RB last 10-12 SB winners. A couple years ago KC drafted Kareem Hunt in the 3rd and he lead the league in rushing. They cut him mid season a year later and picked up D Williams
Literally off the street he ran for 100 yds in the SB. It’s the position that’s devalued a great RB is about as important as having a great base stealer or a guy who can knock down 18 footers but not 3s
Also there’s not anywhere close to 30 elite WR the number of top WR is about the same more WR produce because of the offenses now and the nature of the position
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The Vikings lost a number one receiver and got pert near equal production from a rookie.
You mean the guy that went to Buffalo? How did their passing game with Diggs as opposed to last year?
quote:
Steelers lost an All-Pro receiver and it had no effect on their passing game.
2018 with Brown BR threw for 5000 yds and 7.6 Y/A. he was hurt last year this year he had 3800 and 6.3 Y/A.
quote:
Texans lost a All-Pro receiver and it had no effect on their passing game.
Gee I wonder if that’s because they have an elite QB? Also Cooks and Fuller are not that big of a drop off
This post was edited on 1/16/21 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 1/16/21 at 4:57 pm to H-Town Tiger
From one of the local radio guys:
It’s amazing that things have gotten worse since BOB left
I’ve resigned myself to the fact that 2 years ago we had: Watson, Hopkins, Watt, Clowney, Etc, and soon we’ll be left with nothing but Laremy Tunsil. And when that happens, I’ll no longer be a fan
quote:
Been out of pocket all day doing family stuff, but catching up on texts from sources: Texans are leaning toward accommodating J.J. and he'll likely be moved. And Deshaun is, in fact, legit alienated. "Pretty much irreparable," I'm told. Also: "You'll hear from J.J. next."
It’s amazing that things have gotten worse since BOB left
I’ve resigned myself to the fact that 2 years ago we had: Watson, Hopkins, Watt, Clowney, Etc, and soon we’ll be left with nothing but Laremy Tunsil. And when that happens, I’ll no longer be a fan
Posted on 1/16/21 at 5:19 pm to texastiger38
quote:
From one of the local radio guys:
Which one? Because that's clown shite. Deshaun has no leverage.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 5:58 pm to MSMHater
DeShaun is spoiled. You don't get to pick who your boss's boss picks to be your boss.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 8:58 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Hey Rip Van Winkle, the league has changed a lot in the last 30 years The Rams gave up 2 1's 2 2's and a 3 for Goff in 2016 and their depleted roster got to a SB. And Goff was unproven and hasn't panned out. The Saints have a SB caliber roster as it is
Just think of the players the Rams could have selected with those draft choices and picked up Dak Prescott in the 4th round. The league has changed a lot in the last 30. But if you look at the 60’s Packers, 70’s Steelers, 80’s 49ers, 90’s Cowboys and the the two decade domination of the New England Patriots, one thing never changes. Dynasties are built through the draft.
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