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The Secretariat bloodline
Posted on 5/22/18 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 5/22/18 at 12:57 pm
How often does Secretariat occur in horse racing pedigrees today?
I was doing a bit of reading just now after a discussion at the office, and found that both American Pharoah and Justify are descendants of the great horse. It's probably not a coincidence, but curious if anyone who is more familiar with this subject might weigh in.
I was doing a bit of reading just now after a discussion at the office, and found that both American Pharoah and Justify are descendants of the great horse. It's probably not a coincidence, but curious if anyone who is more familiar with this subject might weigh in.
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Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:01 pm to Cowboyfan89
This thread makes me think of the GOAT horse. That's Smarty fricking Jones. I wish he had won the triple crown 
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:09 pm to Bottom9
Smarty jones couldn’t hold Secretariat’s oat bag.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:14 pm to Bottom9
quote:
This thread makes me think of the GOAT horse. That's Smarty fricking Jones. I wish he had won the triple crown
Wow, another horse with Secretariat in the bloodline.
I guess it really isn't uncommon. I suppose everyone wanted some of those genetics, and he's just all over the place in bloodlines today.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:22 pm to Bottom9
Barbaro > Smarty Jones
Poor guy was going to win the Triple Crown had he not gotten injured
RIP
Poor guy was going to win the Triple Crown had he not gotten injured
RIP
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:24 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
I wish we had more GOAT horse talk around here
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:38 pm to Cowboyfan89
Solomini.
Finished 10th in the KY derby this year.
Finished 10th in the KY derby this year.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:42 pm to Cowboyfan89
IIRC, Native Dancer, and his son Northern Dancer, were in the bloodlines of every horse in the Kentucky Derby a few years back.
Northern Dancer sired 147 stakes winners and $183.7MM worth of offspring. One yearling sold for $10.2MM in 1983.
His stud farm manager said "His semen is literally worth its weight in gold."
Northern Dancer sired 147 stakes winners and $183.7MM worth of offspring. One yearling sold for $10.2MM in 1983.
His stud farm manager said "His semen is literally worth its weight in gold."
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:53 pm to PhillyTiger90
Everybody likes Secretariat for obvious reasons. However...
<--- Team Sham
Sham could have won any other year.
<--- Team Sham
quote:
The fastest time ever run in the Derby was set in 1973 at 1:59.4 minutes when Secretariat broke the record set by Northern Dancer in 1964. Not only has Secretariat's record time yet to be topped, in the race itself, he did something unique in Triple Crown races: each successive quarter, his times were faster. Though times for non-winners were not recorded, in 1973 Sham finished second, two and a half lengths behind Secretariat in the same race. Using the thoroughbred racing convention of one length equaling one-fifth of a second to calculate Sham's time, he also finished in under two minutes.
Sham could have won any other year.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 2:11 pm to Clyde Tipton
Sham's heart was only 3 pounds smaller than Secretariats...everyone else's was 10-12 pounds smaller.
Sham broke the Kentucky Derby record and still lost.
Sham broke the Kentucky Derby record and still lost.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 5:23 pm to Jizzy08
No one is talking about Frankel?
Posted on 5/22/18 at 6:55 pm to Cowboyfan89
I’m actually surprised no one has cloned Secretariat, that would have to be the greatest animal for any cloner.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 11:59 pm to Cowboyfan89
Pretty sure Risen Star had some Secretariat I’m him, but I could be wrong.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 12:21 am to dpd901
Great thread topic.
Big Brown was a Native Dancer descendant (x2), a Princequillo descendent, and a War Admiral descendant, and a Bold Ruler descendant.
He should’ve been a triple crown winner. Such a strange story.
Big Brown was a Native Dancer descendant (x2), a Princequillo descendent, and a War Admiral descendant, and a Bold Ruler descendant.
He should’ve been a triple crown winner. Such a strange story.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 2:26 am to dpd901
Risen Star was actually Secretariat's son. Of the 12 Triple Crown winners, only one was not a descendant of Eclipse. That was War Admiral.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 5:33 am to Cowboyfan89
Posted on 5/23/18 at 6:39 am to cssamerican
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I’m actually surprised no one has cloned Secretariat, that would have to be the greatest animal for any cloner.
For starters you’d have to AI the mare as Secretariat is dead and you can’t race a TB that isn’t conceived by live cover. More importantly, there’s no proof that the clone will perform as well as the original. There are clones of successful AQHA performance horses, but they haven’t achieved what their predecessor did. So the jury is still out on whether clones are gonna be...well, clones.
For that matter, I don’t know if TB racing allows clones to compete.
ETA: per the search, the Jockey Club ( nor any other registry) won’t allow clones to compete in sanctioned events, so that answers that.
This post was edited on 5/23/18 at 7:57 am
Posted on 5/23/18 at 6:48 am to Clyde Tipton
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Sham could have won any other year.
Sham was a Triple Crown winner in any other year than 1973.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:01 am to Clyde Tipton
Penny Chenery always said she felt bad for Sham because he was a great racehorse.
But was going up against the GOAT.
But was going up against the GOAT.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 9:20 am to Cowboyfan89
quote:
How often does Secretariat occur in horse racing pedigrees today?
Justify actually has two Triple Crown winners on his dam side going back 6 generations: Secretariat and Seattle Slew
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