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The NFL is in a precarious position regarding Ezekiel Elliot

Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:05 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:05 pm
On the one hand, they REALLY want to suspend him. Several NFL owners REALLY want him suspended. They have been investigating him for 13 months and to not suspend him at this point would be an embarrassment and they walk away with egg on their faces.

On the other hand, Elliot has been cleared of all wrongdoing by the authorities. In an unusual case, the police have actually refused the NFL any access into their investigation because they determined it was a plot to railroad him by the ex-GF. The players REALLY DONT want him suspended. The NFLPA has already said they plan to sue should he be suspended, and the Cowboys ownership has promised to appeal. The NFL has reportedly been told by their lawyers any suspension has a high chance of being overturned in court. Suspending also sets a dangerous precedent from the players perspective.

So basically the NFL has no way to come out if this looking good. Either they come across as incompetent for taking a year plus to investigate something only to admit they have nothing, or they suspend him and end up looking incompetent when it's overturned on appeal and the players lose even more faith in the league.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:06 pm to
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or they suspend him and end up looking incompetent when it's overturned on appeal an


Good luck with that
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:08 pm to
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So basically the NFL has no way to come out if this looking good. Either they come across as incompetent for taking a year plus to investigate something only to admit they have nothing, or they suspend him and end up looking incompetent when it's overturned on appeal and the players lose even more faith in the league.

Dude will be suspended four games. Then it will be appealed down to two games. End of story.

Jerry Jones comes out and says "Elliot is a good guy".
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:08 pm to
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On the other hand, Elliot has been cleared of all wrongdoing by the authorities


Without commenting on anything else, this has never stopped to NFL before.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:09 pm to
It would be the first time ever a player was suspended without being convicted of or actively being investigated for a violation of the law, or for violating/being accused of violating league rules.

A suspension would basically amount to "He did some stuff in his private life a bunch of rich white dudes dislike". And it will go over very poorly.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:09 pm to
One of the insider guys like Alex Marvez was saying a month or two ago that league just wants to hang this over his head for a while to embarrass him, but they really can't do much.

Why do the owners even care?
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:11 pm to
At first they came for Brady and I said nothing...
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:11 pm to
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So basically the NFL has no way to come out if this looking good.
This is not true. The NFL has suspended guys even when they were cleared of any legal "wrongdoing".
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:11 pm to
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Why do the owners even care?


Just because you're rich doesn't mean you can't be a petty a-hole.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:11 pm to
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Without commenting on anything else, this has never stopped to NFL before.


Correct, but they've never been denied access to a police investigation before. Any evidence they produce will be from private investigations. Additionally, every player ever suspended for a violation of the law was either convicted, being actively investigated or had plead out at the timd the suspension was handed down. No player ever 100% cleared and declared innocent has been suspended for the accused offense.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:15 pm to
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The NFL has suspended guys even when they were cleared of any legal "wrongdoing".


They've suspended players who were later cleared, and suspended players who were cleared but why they did violated league rules. The case is different here.

Worse yet, the crime he was accused and cleared of happened before he was even a employed by the Dallas Cowboys.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:16 pm to
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At first they came for Brady and I said nothing...



Brady violated a league rule that amounted to cheating
This post was edited on 8/8/17 at 2:17 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:16 pm to
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Worse yet, the crime he was accused and cleared of happened before he was even a employed by the Dallas Cowboys.
From what I understand, the potential suspension has nothing to do with the domestic situation
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:17 pm to
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It would be the first time ever a player was suspended without being convicted of or actively being investigated for a violation of the law, or for violating/being accused of violating league rules.


What percentage of the casual fan would know that? When I read your first post I immediately thought of Big Ben and Greg Hardy. Both never were charged with crimes.

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A suspension would basically amount to "He did some stuff in his private life a bunch of rich white dudes dislike". And it will go over very poorly


Disagree. It will have nothing to do with race and everything to do with the NFL overstepping which they have shown a repeated tendency to do. I'll be pissed because I don't think the NFL should be playing moral police, not because Zeke in black.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:21 pm to
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rom what I understand, the potential suspension has nothing to do with the domestic situation


Well then what the hell is it about? I figured since the authorities weren't pursuing the charges then the NFL would clear him to play since their product is better with Zeke on the field. There must be something we don't know about.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:21 pm to
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So basically the NFL has no way to come out if this looking good. Either they come across as incompetent for taking a year plus to investigate something only to admit they have nothing


If this is the truth, then I think they come away looking great. They took their time to fully investigate the matter and found no wrongdoing by the player, so he isn't suspended. It would show the players that it isn't always just about PR and "protecting the shield."
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:21 pm to
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Well then what the hell is it about?
Jerry was very vague. But he made it clear, it has nothing to do with the domestic situation(which was a complete lie by some bimbo)
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:22 pm to
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and to not suspend him at this point would be an embarrassment and they walk away with egg on their faces.
So it would end like basically every other high profile NFL investigation.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94795 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:23 pm to
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So it would end like basically every other high profile NFL investigation.
Honestly, the NFL is screwed publicly no matter what they do now. about 50% of people will complain loudly with any decision they make
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110477 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:24 pm to
Hey, I just called you out in another thread.
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