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re: The Herd: LeBron Most "Valuable" Player...numbers don't lie
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:55 pm to buckeye_vol
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:55 pm to buckeye_vol
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As opposed to conjecture based on "feelings."
Or logical reasoning.
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But his offensive talent pales in comparison to Steph.
Except Lilliard bares more responsibility, the system Curry is in allows him to be as efficient as the league has ever seen. The system plays to his strengths which amplifies his talents.
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:55 pm to 13SaintTiger
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his offensive talent is still the same
I'm done.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:56 pm to WestCoastAg
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kobe lost two MVPs because of colorado
Not that Steve Nash made everyone on his team better and averaged 12+ assists per game?
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:56 pm to 13SaintTiger
quote:Highly doubtful.
Probably? They'd be closer to 73 than 60. Come on
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:56 pm to longhorn22
quote:Even with Mark Jackson, and before he really hit his shooting promise, Steph was a far better player than Lilliard is today.
just think over the given time in GS Mark Jackson and everyone involved with that organization built a laid back culture...S
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:57 pm to longhorn22
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and doesn't have others like he does in GS to feed off of...whereas is LeBron would be in Philly those surrounding him feeds off of him and he improves them...
Dude....you can't be serious with this stuff.
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LeBron just makes so many players from MEH, to GOOD...its crazy
Harrison Barnes is probably going to get a damn max deal this offseason from someone
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:57 pm to 13SaintTiger
quote:It all goes the way it goes because of Curry first and foremost.
Or you can't do that because they have another historic lights ou shooter in Klay, and a physical PF who has incredible vision and a good shot from the perimeter.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:57 pm to WestCoastAg
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hahhahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahaha
I assume this is a result of your lack of reading comprehension. Lilliard's talents don't change just because he switches teams. Monstars aren't real.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:58 pm to 13SaintTiger
quote:So does being the greatest shooter ever.
the system Curry is in allows him to be as efficient as the league has ever seen
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:58 pm to 13SaintTiger
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Except Lilliard bares more responsibility, the system Curry is in allows him to be as efficient as the league has ever seen. The system plays to his strengths which amplifies his talents.
Spot on...Lillard can't just come down the court skip around on a unicorn and jack up a 3 and close his eyes...he actually has to move the ball around and work for shots...Curry has the freedom to shoot from wherever he wants
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:58 pm to 13SaintTiger
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Or logical reasoning.
Largely the definition of stats and analytics
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:59 pm to RTR America
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Barnes is probably going to get a damn max deal this offseason from someone
You're attributing that to Curry?
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:59 pm to 13SaintTiger
quote:Reasoning that is counter to the evidence is the opposite of logical.
Or logical reasoning.
quote:Steph has a higher usage (32.6) than Lilliard (31.3).
Except Lilliard bares more responsibility
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:59 pm to longhorn22
quote:If he was as good a shooter as Curry, you can bet he'd be able to do this.
Lillard can't just come down the court skip around on a unicorn and jack up a 3 and close his eyes
How do you fail to realize the system is created and all works as well as it does because of Curry is beyond me. If Curry went to POR, you think the system would dictate he played more like Lillard and less like STeph? No chance.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 2:00 pm to longhorn22
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Lillard can't just come down the court skip around on a unicorn and jack up a 3 and close his eyes.
Lillard jacks up godawful 3 point attempts all the damn time.
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he actually has to move the ball around and work for shots
Where do you think all this moving screen talk comes from? It is from Steph running off of screen constantly.
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Curry has the freedom to shoot from wherever he wants
Which he has rightfully earned. I don't see what your point is here.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 2:01 pm to 13SaintTiger
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You're attributing that to Curry?
You aren't?
Posted on 5/9/16 at 2:01 pm to RTR America
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Harrison Barnes is probably going to get a damn max deal this offseason from someone
Oh the first and only freshman to come into North Carolina and be a preseason all-American?
You act like Barnes is a scrub....he has all the talent in the world...
We are talking about LeBron making scrub players like Delly, Channing Frye(saw what he was doing while he was in Orlando this season and years before bouncing around the league)...I mean the list can go on and on about role players LeBron has helped become GREAT/GOOD players..
Posted on 5/9/16 at 2:01 pm to 13SaintTiger
Even if Curry could be replaced by someone with little drop off (which I agree with to some extent) it still doesn't take away from what he accomplished. You can play hypotheticals about this or that would happen but it doesn't mean squat.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 2:02 pm to RTR America
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Curry has the freedom to shoot from wherever he wants
On the "system" the Warriors run..
Posted on 5/9/16 at 2:03 pm to longhorn22
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Oh the first and only freshman to come into North Carolina and be a preseason all-American?
What in the world does that have to do with Harrison Barnes the NBA player?
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You act like Barnes is a scrub....he has all the talent in the world...
He is no where near a max guy without Steph
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