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The Consolidation of Power in College Football

Posted on 9/20/19 at 12:28 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64946 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 12:28 pm
Did you know that it has been 23 years since a college football team won their first ever national championship? Ever since the 1996 Florida Gators, every team that has won a consensus national championship at the FBS level already had at least one national title to their credit. Teams winning their first national championship used to happen more frequently, especially in the 1980s, but that trend has fallen off over the last two decades:

1996 - Florida Gators
1993 - Florida State Seminoles
1991 - Washington Huskies
1990 - Colorado Buffaloes & Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets
1984 - BYU Cougars
1983 - Miami Hurricanes
1982 - Penn State Nittany Lions
1981 - Clemson Tigers
1980 - Georgia Bulldogs

I feel like in the last 20 or so years, especially with the advent of the BCS, a consolidation of power has happened in the FBS - aided by the machinations of corporate media giants like ESPN. For a time there was a rise in parity, but only because the talent was becoming more evenly spread between the "have" schools. The "have nots" continued to get sloppy seconds in the talent department.

I also feel like college football is further consolidating its power between a handful of schools that have controlled the sport for decades, edging the little guys further and further away from the conversation.

I feel as if the reason for this is the fact that there are just too many schools at the FBS level. Of the 130 teams that currently compete in major college football, less than a dozen of them have a chance to compete for a national championship in any given year.

Posted by reddman
Member since Jul 2005
78186 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 12:30 pm to
Post the list of current FBS schools that do not have a National Championship.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33315 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 12:30 pm to
Lots of feels for you.
Posted by cpp2208
Member since Oct 2018
2012 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

Post the list of current FBS schools that do not have a National Championship.


Boston College
Washington State
Mississippi State
Oklahoma State
Arizona
Arizona State
West Virginia
Utah
Texas Tech
NC State
Missouri
South Carolina
Oregon
Boise State
Virginia Tech
Wisconsin
Louisivlle
UNC

There are a few others but those are the somewhat bigger names.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66997 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 12:37 pm to
Here’s a list of some P5 teams without championships (most won’t surprise you):
Boston College
Wazzou
Arizona
Utah
Texas Tech
Mississippi State
NC St
OK St
Mizzou
South Carolina
Oregon
Arizona St
West Virginia
Virginia Tech
Wisconsin
Purdue
Louisville
Vanderbilt
Indiana
Kansas
Duke
North Carolina
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84609 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

Teams winning their first national championship used to happen more frequently, especially in the 1980s, but that trend has fallen off over the last two decades:


Because math.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 12:43 pm to
Yeah. Ihat number is guaranteed to trend toward zero. Most of the teams on his list have won ANOTHER national title since then, kinda proving why this is silly
Posted by sacrathetic
Member since May 2019
618 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 12:50 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 2:01 pm
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25506 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 12:53 pm to
You are correct.

The list is destined to shrink, but you can simply pick a decade from last century and still find teams that used to be national powers that are not on the radar.

Pitt used to be a national power, even into the 80’s. That will never happen again.

Nebraska?
Miami?
When do Georgia Tech and Colorado get another crack at it?

Will Syracuse ever become a contender again?

Someone from the PAC 12?

CFB is starting to resemble previous NBA seasons where the final 4 can be very predictable.

The fatigue is not because of Bama and Clemson. The fatigue is because the champion will come from the same group of 4-12 teams each year.

You’d be harder pressed to pick the NFL playoffs (12 out of 32 teams) than the CFP. That’s a shame.
Posted by The Easter Bunny
Minnesota
Member since Jan 2005
45566 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

Miami?


Weren't they top 2 less than two years ago?

quote:

When do Georgia Tech and Colorado get another crack at it?



Georgia Tech has won their conference and played in a BCS game in the last decade

quote:

Someone from the PAC 12?


Oregon and Washington have made the playoff. Utah is a contender this season
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36581 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 1:07 pm to
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NC State


Has never finished ranked higher than 12th

Incredible to me

Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64946 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

Post the list of current FBS schools that do not have a National Championship.


Sure.

In the Power Five:

ACC

Boston College
Duke
Louisville
North Carolina
NC State
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Wake Forest

Big Ten

Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Northwestern
Purdue
Rutgers
Wisconsin

Big 12

Baylor
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma State
Texas Tech
West Virginia

Pac 12

Arizona
Arizona State
California
Oregon
Oregon State
Stanford
Utah
Washington State

SEC

Kentucky
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Missouri
South Carolina
Vanderbilt


In the Group of Five:

AAC

Tulsa
Navy
South Florida
UCF
Houston
East Carolina
Cincinnati
UConn
SMU
Memphis
Tulane
Temple

Conference USA

UAB
Florida Atlantic
FIU
Louisiana Tech
Marshall
MTSU
Charlotte
North Texas
Old Dominion
Rice
Southern Miss
UTEP
UTSA
Western Kentucky

MAC

Akron
Bowling Green
Buffalo
Kent State
Miami (OH)
Ohio
Ball State
Central Michigan
Eastern Michigan
Northern Illinois
Toledo
Western Michigan

Mountain West

Air Force
Boise State
Fresno State
Colorado State
Nevada
New Mexico
SDSU
SJSU
Utah State
Wyoming

Sun Belt

Appalachian State
Arkansas State
Coastal Carolina
Georgia Southern
Georgia State
Louisiana
UL-Monroe
South Alabama
Texas State
Troy


Independents

Liberty
New Mexico State
UMass


I could have counted wrong, but I believe of the 130 current teams in the FBS, only 30 have ever won a national championship.
This post was edited on 9/20/19 at 1:14 pm
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12375 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 1:09 pm to
Something to consider is that the late 1990s and early 2000s showcased a few teams winning their first NC in a long time. Tennessee, LSU (2003) and Auburn won their first NC’s since the 1950s. Michigan won its first since the 1940s. Texas and USC won their first one since the 70s.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21854 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

I feel like in the last 20 or so years, especially with the advent of the BCS, a consolidation of power has happened in the FBS
Do you realize that for the first 9 years of the BCS, that there were 9 different schools who won the BCS title?

LSU was the first school to get 2 titles during the BCS era.

In 16 seasons of the BCS era, 11 different schools won a national title. LSU, Florida, Florida State and Bama were the only ones who won multiple.


ETA: I think once Saban retires, order will be restored to the force and more SEC schools will be represented in the playoffs.
This post was edited on 9/20/19 at 1:14 pm
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12375 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

SEC

Kentucky
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Missouri
South Carolina
Vanderbilt


Ole Miss won 3 under Vaught.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 1:13 pm to
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less than a dozen of them have a chance to compete for a national championship in any given year.

most of you just can't grasp that it's about making money.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64946 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

Ole Miss won 3 under Vaught.


None of them consensus. That's what we are counting here. AP or Coaches Poll championships only prior to 1998.
This post was edited on 9/20/19 at 1:15 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64946 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

most of you just can't grasp that it's about making money.


And you can't seem to grasp that declining audience, means declining ad revenue, which means less money.

Why should people care to watch a product where, of 130 teams, only 5-6 are guaranteed a chance to win it every single season?

Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76476 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 1:23 pm to
Teams that have had a very real chance to be national champions in the past 25 years:


Oregon (1 title game, 1 other CFP appearance)
Arizona State (undrafted in 1996, lost Rose Bowl)
West Virginia (one game away from the BCS in 2007)
Virginia Tech (Vick)

Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25506 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

Weren't they top 2 less than two years ago?


And then got drilled by Clemson and Wisconsin. They were not a real contender.

quote:

Georgia Tech has won their conference and played in a BCS game in the last decade



The conference title was 10 years ago...over Clemson. Look at the trajectory of the two programs since.

quote:

Oregon and Washington have made the playoff. Utah is a contender this season


I’ll give the Huskies credit. I think Peterson will keep that program on solid ground.

Oregon has fallen off fast. It’d be nice to see Utah contend, but I don’t think they are close to title contending level.
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