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The B1G Should Try and Raid the ACC
Posted on 7/22/21 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 7:38 pm
With Texas and OU all but heading for the SEC, the B1G’s only option may be to counter that move by trying to land some big name programs from the ACC. If I were Warren, I would try and expand to as many as 20 members. Invite Clemson, Florida St, UNC, Duke, Notre Dame and UVA. Four, 5 team divisions. Go to a 12 game conference ONLY schedule. This would be a pretty balanced league. This move by Texas and OU leaves all the other conferences at a major disadvantage. Something like this would be the only legit counter move.
B1G East:
Ohio St
Penn St
Michigan
Maryland
Rutgers
B1G South:
Clemson
UNC
UVA
Duke
Florida St
B1G North:
Michigan St
Notre Dame
Indiana
Purdue
Illinois
B1G West:
Wisconsin
Nebraska
Iowa
Northwestern
Minnesota
Balanced and competitive divisions. This would be THE premier basketball conference in the country. Expands the footprint. AAU quality schools. Would be a solid counter by the B1G...especially with the B1G getting ready to renegotiate its media rights. Perfect timing.
B1G East:
Ohio St
Penn St
Michigan
Maryland
Rutgers
B1G South:
Clemson
UNC
UVA
Duke
Florida St
B1G North:
Michigan St
Notre Dame
Indiana
Purdue
Illinois
B1G West:
Wisconsin
Nebraska
Iowa
Northwestern
Minnesota
Balanced and competitive divisions. This would be THE premier basketball conference in the country. Expands the footprint. AAU quality schools. Would be a solid counter by the B1G...especially with the B1G getting ready to renegotiate its media rights. Perfect timing.
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 7:38 pm to Buckeye Backer
quote:..who has a GOR in place for like another 15 years
Raid the ACC
Posted on 7/22/21 at 7:42 pm to Buckeye Backer
Nothing is happening with the ACC until 2035.
I'd say the SEC would welcome this to get access to VT and NCSU(although UNC may put this stake in that).
I'd say the SEC would welcome this to get access to VT and NCSU(although UNC may put this stake in that).
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 7:44 pm to jfan244888
Money talks...if there’s a will there’s a way.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 7:47 pm to Buckeye Backer
quote:
With Texas and OU all but heading for the SEC, the B1G’s only option may be to counter that move by trying to land some big name programs from the ACC
Yes! Agreed 100%!!!!
quote:
B1G East:
Ohio St
Penn St
Michigan
Maryland
Rutgers
B1G South:
Clemson
UNC
UVA
Duke
Florida St
B1G North:
Michigan St
Notre Dame
Indiana
Purdue
Illinois
B1G West:
Wisconsin
Nebraska
Iowa
Northwestern
Minnesota
This is absolutely amazing. Love this!!!
quote:
Balanced and competitive divisions. This would be THE premier basketball conference in the country. Expands the footprint. AAU quality schools. Would be a solid counter by the B1G...especially with the B1G getting ready to renegotiate its media rights. Perfect timing.
This is so true.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 7:48 pm to Buckeye Backer
quote:
Money talks...if there’s a will there’s a way.
Exactly!
Posted on 7/22/21 at 7:49 pm to Buckeye Backer
Big 10 cares far more about prote ting Ohio State and Michigan than expand G their league.
The SEC doenst give a shite about anything but money, and damn the canibilization of their league.
The elitists in the Big 10 also are likely turning their noses up as such "uncivilized" measures the SEC and Texas/OU are discussing.
I think they will be content making a few million less than the SEC overall, bust still protecting their bluebloods from any real competition.
The SEC doenst give a shite about anything but money, and damn the canibilization of their league.
The elitists in the Big 10 also are likely turning their noses up as such "uncivilized" measures the SEC and Texas/OU are discussing.
I think they will be content making a few million less than the SEC overall, bust still protecting their bluebloods from any real competition.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 7:52 pm to Buckeye Backer
Miami weeps
Posted on 7/22/21 at 7:58 pm to habz007
Big Ten offers Oklahoma and Kansas tomorrow and end runs the SEC. OU has been pining for Big Ten academic standing (grant $$$$$$$$$$$ in the billions, with a B) for years. KU us already AAU and has basketball. Contiguous states with Nebraska and reunites Huskers v Sooners and Huskers v Jayhawks.
SEC takes UT and Okie State.
Each conference gets a major program and a palatable one without cannibalizing current membership.
It makes the most sense so will never happen.
Do you guys in the SEC West really want to make it THAT much more difficult. What do the Mississippi schools, the real UT, Mizzou, Vandy, USCe, etc. think about this?
SEC takes UT and Okie State.
Each conference gets a major program and a palatable one without cannibalizing current membership.
It makes the most sense so will never happen.
Do you guys in the SEC West really want to make it THAT much more difficult. What do the Mississippi schools, the real UT, Mizzou, Vandy, USCe, etc. think about this?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 7:59 pm to habz007
I disagree 10000%....the B1G hired Barry Alvarez just today to be an “advisor” to Kevin Warren for expansion. This move by Texas and OU is the biggest threat to college football...maybe ever. These conferences are going to have to do something major to keep up. Those ACC schools fit all of the B1G boxes. Athletics and academics. Would be a great counter move for the B1G.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:00 pm to Buckeye Backer
I see the Big 10 more likely to shed teams into the ACC footprint rather than expand into it. IMO, the Big 10’s future is in the remnants of the old Big 12 north.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:05 pm to Buckeye Backer
The key has always been to get to 4 conferences.
Look at the number of teams in the Power 5 right now
SEC: 14
Pac 12: 12
Big 10: 14
Big 12: 10
ACC: 15
65 teams total including Notre Dame. There are a few schools in the AAC and elsewhere that could be added, but it seems clear there will be a Northern conference, a Southern Conference, a Western conference, and a Mid-Atlantic conference.
It will end up being a bit like European soccer leagues where England, Italy, Spain, and Germany all operate pretty well on their own, even if there is a subtle hierarchy between leagues.
The big loser in this is the Plains teams which will become stepbrothers in other leagues, to an extent
Look at the number of teams in the Power 5 right now
SEC: 14
Pac 12: 12
Big 10: 14
Big 12: 10
ACC: 15
65 teams total including Notre Dame. There are a few schools in the AAC and elsewhere that could be added, but it seems clear there will be a Northern conference, a Southern Conference, a Western conference, and a Mid-Atlantic conference.
It will end up being a bit like European soccer leagues where England, Italy, Spain, and Germany all operate pretty well on their own, even if there is a subtle hierarchy between leagues.
The big loser in this is the Plains teams which will become stepbrothers in other leagues, to an extent
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:08 pm to Buckeye Backer
you've made this thread for 10 years in a row now
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:09 pm to Buckeye Backer
Then the remaining ACC and best of the AAC join to reform a sort of old school Big East.
West Virginia
Boston College
Syracuse
Pittsburgh
Cincinnati
Louisville
Miami
Virginia Tech
NC State
GA Tech
UCF
USF
The remaining Big 12 adds the best of the AAC and MWC
Oklahoma St
Kansas
Kansas St
Iowa St
TCU
Baylor
SMU
Memphis
Houston
BYU
Boise St
Colorado St
West Virginia
Boston College
Syracuse
Pittsburgh
Cincinnati
Louisville
Miami
Virginia Tech
NC State
GA Tech
UCF
USF
The remaining Big 12 adds the best of the AAC and MWC
Oklahoma St
Kansas
Kansas St
Iowa St
TCU
Baylor
SMU
Memphis
Houston
BYU
Boise St
Colorado St
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:10 pm to Buckeye Backer
quote:
disagree 10000%....the B1G hired Barry Alvarez just today to be an “advisor” to Kevin Warren for expansion. This move by Texas and OU is the biggest threat to college football...maybe ever. These conferences are going to have to do something major to keep up. Those ACC schools fit all of the B1G boxes. Athletics and academics. Would be a great counter move for the B1G.
Absolutely
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:11 pm to I Bleed Garnet
Didn't see the BIG hired Barry. He's the real commish. It's on now.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:12 pm to Buckeye Backer
I was surprised how close PSU apparently came to joining the ACC recently, the upshot would have potentially been Notre Dame also being ACC bound.
Unless leadership within ND has changed their tune they are specifically opposed to joining the Big Ten - for reasons that go back to Michigan's attempts to crush their program in the early 20th century.
Who knows how things play out. But a ACC with ND and PSU added to Clemson, FSU, Miami starts to at least have more name brand credibility. The Big Ten would still be relevant. With few alternatives they could pick up a basketball blue blood in Kansas to replace PSU.
I don't know where that leaves you if you are OSU, WVU, TT, ISU, KSU, or Baylor
Unless leadership within ND has changed their tune they are specifically opposed to joining the Big Ten - for reasons that go back to Michigan's attempts to crush their program in the early 20th century.
Who knows how things play out. But a ACC with ND and PSU added to Clemson, FSU, Miami starts to at least have more name brand credibility. The Big Ten would still be relevant. With few alternatives they could pick up a basketball blue blood in Kansas to replace PSU.
I don't know where that leaves you if you are OSU, WVU, TT, ISU, KSU, or Baylor
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:14 pm to Buckeye Backer
3 out of the last 4 teams to be added to the B1G were East...Penn St, Maryland and Rutgers. The B1G will not go any further west unless it’s Texas or Oklahoma. The B1G loves those 5 ACC schools and their academics.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:19 pm to Buckeye Backer
None of that stopped ND and Michigan from playing every year until recently.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:21 pm to Buckeye Backer
There are some entrenched B1G power players that will strongly resist bringing in any university that isn't a member of the AAU.
Thus, I could definitely see a move for Virginia, UNC, Duke, Pittsburgh, and/or Georgia Tech.
Florida St. and Clemson would be a much more difficult sell, however, especially since they aren't in major tv markets and they're geographically (and culturally) so distant.
Thus, I could definitely see a move for Virginia, UNC, Duke, Pittsburgh, and/or Georgia Tech.
Florida St. and Clemson would be a much more difficult sell, however, especially since they aren't in major tv markets and they're geographically (and culturally) so distant.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 8:24 pm
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