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re: The ATL Thread 6/17: Padres Day vs los Padres edition

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Posted by Broski
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 3:28 pm to
Jays just hit a solo HR in the bottom 8th to take a 7-6 lead over Nats.
Posted by Caplewood
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 3:32 pm to
FLOWBOMB
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Posted by SpanishFortTiger
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 3:38 pm to
8-6 Jays top of the 9th.

Why they didn’t walk Flowers is beyond me.
Posted by SpanishFortTiger
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 3:42 pm to
Blue Jays beat the Nationals.
Posted by devils1854
Franklin
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 3:47 pm to
I love Frenchy giving it to the Padre catcher.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 3:48 pm to
GAME BIG DICK NICK
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 3:51 pm to
Hand was freakin unhittable in SD
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 4:18 pm to
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Hand was freakin unhittable in SD


He's going to be a nice trade chip for them at the deadline
Posted by lsu31always
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 4:49 pm to
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Home Teheran (frick)


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okietiger

Bow to your Master, Bitch.
Posted by BranchDawg
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 5:51 pm to
Brewers lose to the Phillies.

As of Sunday evening, June 17th, your Atlanta Braves are tied for the best record in the National League.

What a time to be alive.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 6:46 pm to
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He's going to be a nice trade chip for them at the deadline


The guy is big time...can't believe the Marlins gave up
on em.Another on my Braves wish list.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 7:16 pm to
Chuck Hernandez wanted the braves to grab him off waivers and they declined. Woops
Posted by devils1854
Franklin
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 7:42 pm to
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Another on my Braves wish list.


Teams have been trying to get Hand from San Diego since last year, and no one has because his price is too damn high. There is no chance the Braves even get close to dealing for him. No one is dealing for him right now.
Posted by SpanishFortTiger
Spanish Fort, Alabama
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 7:43 pm to
Hand is under contract until 2020 with a team option for 2021. It’ll be the same price for deGrom and I don’t think the Braves pull the trigger.
Posted by devils1854
Franklin
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 7:47 pm to
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It’ll be the same price for deGrom and I don’t think the Braves pull the trigger.


I wouldnt go that high, bu ]t if the Braves called, I wouldnt be surprised if Preller asked for Gohara and Anderson, plus a lottery ticket like Encarnacion or Ramos.
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 7:49 pm to
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I wouldnt go that high, bu ]t if the Braves called, I wouldnt be surprised if Preller asked for Gohara and Anderson, plus a lottery ticket like Encarnacion or Ramos.

Yes please
Posted by devils1854
Franklin
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 7:57 pm to
The trades Id make

Atlanta receives Kelvin Herrera and Mike Moustakas
Kansas CIty receives Kyle Muller, Brett Cumberland, Isranel Wilson

Atlanta receives Tony Watson
San Fransico receives Brett Cumberland, Derian Cruz

Atlanta receives Tony Watson, Will Clark
San Francisco receives Max Fried, Brett Cumberland, Isranel Wilson

Atlanta receives Rasiel Iglasius
Cincinnati receives Joey Wentz, Jefrey Ramos

Atlanta receives Rasiel Iglasius, Eugenio Suarez
Cincinnati receives Ian Anderson, Austin Riley, Brett Cumberland, Jefrey Ramos

Atlanta receives Darren O'Day
Baltimore receives Joey Wentz, PTBNL

Atlanta receives Dylan Bundy and Darren O'Day
Baltimore receives Luiz Gohara, Ian Anderson, Kyle Muller, Brett Cumberland
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 8:00 pm to
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There is no chance the Braves even get close to dealing for him. No one is dealing for him right now


How do you know? If the right offer is made ANY team would listen and the Braves have more prospects to offer than any other team in contention amd the Padres
are going nowhere.

And there's no way his asking price is higher than Degroms.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 8:20 pm to
Not a Brett Cumberland fan?
Posted by devils1854
Franklin
Member since Aug 2014
6348 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 8:23 pm to
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How do you know? If the right offer is made ANY team would listen and the Braves have more prospects to offer than any other team in contention amd the Padres
are going nowhere.

And there's no way his asking price is higher than Degroms.


and this is where we know the Braves fans come out of nowhere. Not knowing anything about baseball, but the Braves are good, so lets jump back on the bandwagon.

Ill go slow for you.


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Reports from around the baseball world have claimed the Padres are asking a steep price for lefty reliever Brad Hand. Steep, but fair, say the Padres.

According to a team source, Hand has commanded the most interest of any Padres trade chip since A.J. Preller took over as general manager in 2014. "Half the league or more" has inquired about Hand, the source said.

In any case, multiple reports have recently suggested the Padres are asking for more than opposing teams would be willing to part with. An anonymous executive joked to Yahoo! Sports' Jeff Passan, "I don't think the Dodgers would ask more for [Clayton] Kershaw than A.J. is for Brad Hand."


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Not every team can afford Hand in terms of prospects, however, which is how we can begin to eliminate some teams from the mix. When the Indians acquired lefty Andrew Miller from the Yankees at the 2016 trade deadline, they forked over four minor leaguers, including top prospects Clint Frazier and Justus Sheffield. While nobody would argue that Miller is the superior (and more established) relief pitcher, the two come with similar amounts of team control, while Miller’s contract guaranteed him $9MM per season.



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“When you look at a player that we have control over for the next 2 ½ years, there was no rush for us to reach out and do anything,” General Manager A.J. Preller said. “If we got to a point where I was able to go to ownership and to our fanbase and find a player or group of players that I felt bring more value than an All-Star-caliber reliever, that’s what we were going to examine. Anything short of that, from our standpoint, we were very content moving forward with Brad.”

If Hand continues to excel, some wonder if the Padres might replicate what they pulled off two years ago. At the 2015 trade deadline, Preller declined to send closer Craig Kimbrel to the Yankees in exchange for shortstop prospect Jorge Mateo. That November, Kimbrel was shipped to Boston. The return consisted of current Padres center fielder Manuel Margot, current second baseman Carlos Asuaje and prospects Logan Allen and Javier Guerra.



So, lets say that Hand gets a package close to what Miller got, even though he is nowhere as good as Miller. That would be something like Christian Pache, Ian Anderson, Dustin Peterson, and Juan Carlos Encarnacion.

Or how about the package the Padres got for Kimbrel, since Preller made the trade, and it was for a good reliever. That would be Pache(Margot), Joey Wentz(Asuaje), Bryce Wilson(Allen), and Jefrey Ramos(Guerra).

Yeah, lets argue about how the Braves will get a deal for Hand.

Just because you have the best farm system /=/ to trading good prospects in a bad deal. Thats how you turn a potential dynasty into a what could have been.
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